It's a great quote, but let's face it, there are not going to be any defeats of that scale anymore, since neither side can ever win. Right now, the Alliance has suffered some setbacks, and if the developer's comments are anything to go by, the Horde will be suffering some setbacks in MoP. But neither side will ever again achieve the sort of triumph that Turalyon won.

They do need to bring that guy back, though.

I'm not saying we should have such a victory, I just want that kind of language back in the game.

Aggressive, yet principled. Steadfast, yet civilized.

"It's a great quote, but let's face it, there are not going to be any defeats of that scale anymore, since neither side can ever win."

That's only because Blizz seems to be unwilling to change the 2 hostile factions in permanent conflict model.

If that was on the table, imagine the story lines that could be made.

But Amaxe, how can one side ever actually win?

Look at the QQ now, because one side is on the defensive. And it's not like the Alliance is even particularly losing, right now. Hillsbrad is an outright loss, but on the other hand they have Mulgore itself under seige, etc.

Now imagine if one faction or the other was actually told "Well, you lost. This next expansion is about you trying to recover and rebuild while your enemies lord it over you."

I would much rather play a hunted faction seeking to recover and rebuild than the crap status quo we have now.

"Light, we expected to die—but we didn't... We did what we came here to do. What do we do now—that's up to us. There are others still out there—we need to find them, bring them back. We'll explore. Make new allies. Keep fighting the Horde, whatever's left here, so they don't ever try to do something like this again. The Light is still with us. We still have a job to do. This world will be what we choose to make of it."

WTB High General Turalyon