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12-18-2011 @ 8:31AM
I think most rogues who ever play combat would agree with me that one of the most disappointig things about transmog is the restriction on 1h weapon types. Rogues just generally look better with blades in both hands, it makes more sense (how exactly am I applying this poison with a hammer again?). However Blizzard's recent itemisation of rogue weapons, since the removal of AP, has seen a plethora maces and axes for combat since we have to share our itemisation with Enhance Shamans and so we just don't get swords any more - or fast OH weapons of any kind except daggers. So a lot of the time we are stuck with Mace / Dagger...which just looks weird and awkward. I want a ninja costume - possibly using the Dungeon set 3 combined with the D1 head. And I want a katana in one hand and one of the wakizashi-looking dagger models in the other (or to dual-wield katanas if I can ever farm up that one decent-looking katana model in the game that sheathes to the back). But at max level that means you need an agi sword.Personally, and I'm saying this as someone whose rogue is very much an alt, I think that Rogues 1h weapons should get the same treatment as hunter's bows, crossbows and guns. You should be able to transmog axes, maces, fists, daggers and swords into each other as long as your character can equip both source and destination weapons of the transmog.
12-18-2011 @ 10:24AM
You don't get swords anymore? For all the Enh shaman out there let me just say, 'I beg to differ.'
12-18-2011 @ 10:33AM
My main is Enh and it irritates me that there are agi swords in the game at all. I'm still a little irked that we were the only spec I know of that didn't get access to a 365 crafted weapon from molten front just so one spec could have a sword (perfectly itemized for enh too, just to rub it in I guess). Get rid of agi swords or let enh equip them already.
12-18-2011 @ 10:46AM
@LiteralTotally agree with you here. My rogue is running around with the 85 Tankard O'Terror, and for the life of can't find a transmog mace I like. I prefer DWing daggers!But as a positive I did find a decent gear look, so it's not all bad.
12-18-2011 @ 10:49AM
Really? You beg to differ? In all raids since Cata's release - up to and including Dragon Soul - there has been exactly one Agi Sword, the Fang of Twilight from Valiona. There have been 4 axes, one mace and a fist weapon. In terms of dungeon epics, there's been one axe, one mace and three fists. No swords at all.The crafted sword brings the total up to 2epics in the whole expac. Neither of these were fast enough to be considered useful as an offhand. In fact, every single one-handed agi weapon in Cata with a speed faster than 2.0 was a dagger.
12-18-2011 @ 11:47AM
The weapon types have been the biggest sticking points for me, both on my Rogue main and my main Pally alt.The rogue I have in what I can only describe as a black biker leather getup, and I really wanted her to use simple weapons. For a week or so there I had the fist weapon out of the twilights and instantly transmogged it into Fist of the Deity, and it was awesome. Then I got the axe off of Deathwing and had to sadly put the fist back in the bank. I don't want to wield axes and daggers, I want my combat rogue going dual fist weapons and punching enemies to death. I could do that in PvP, but not PvE?And my Paladin. When I heard transmog was coming, I farmed up the complete DK look-a-like armor and the Slayer of the Lifeless from Naxx to be a unique looking paladin (instead of going for Judgement like everybody else). And what happens? The twilight tanking weapon is... a mace. Like the rogue's Fist of the Deity, Slayer of the Lifeless went back into the bank, to never be used again.I have a shammy I'm raising as well that I really wanted to get the two big molten claw fists out of Mt. Hyjal for, but again there aren't two good fist weapons for them to use, so what would be the point?Long as they're weapons we can equip, and they're the same handedness (1h vs 2h), who cares what type it is? There is no advantage in PvP to knowing that your opponent has two axes compared to two swords, and I'm pretty sure Hagara doesn't care in PvE what kind of weapons you're sporting.Long as its in the same ballpark (no turning offhand orbs into shields or the like), who cares what our weapons look like compared to what they actually are?
12-18-2011 @ 12:00PM
Let's see... Krol Decapitator, Fang of Twilight, Pyrium Spellward, Horseman's Sinister Saber, Spine of a Thousand Cuts. That's 5 by my count. You've had a sword option at almost every point in this expansion except at the 378 ilvl and now at 410 bc the sword from DS isn't a boss drop. How many more weapons should be made for one hand of one spec? Oh, I forgot, you want fast agility swords too, as if it isn't bad enough that daggers get de'd most of the time.
12-18-2011 @ 3:07PM
I'm wondering if Blizzard would restrict Swords, Maces, Axes and Fists to Combat Rogues if they were to lift the weapon type xmog restriction.Daggers for Assassination and Subtlety is fairly iconic.
12-18-2011 @ 6:46PM
You guys seem to have lost track of the real issue here. Its not about the gear distribution, rather its about the restrictions on transmogrification. Imo, there should be four groups that can be intertransmogable (up rate for inventing a new word :D). Group one: one-handed maces, one-handed axes, and one-handed swords.Group two: two-handed maces, two-handed axes, and two-handed swords.Group three: Fist weapons and daggers.Group four: Staffs and polearms.
12-18-2011 @ 10:39PM
@Jack_MynockHow exactly do weapons that only drop from lockboxes, which are only attainable by rogues, affect Enh shamans in any way, shape or form? Also - you're counting a terribly itemised sword that only dropped for about a week and a half from a holiday boss bag that we could get once a day and 90% of the time dropped nothing at all? That's really stretching...However, as other have said - with your "Raaawwwr Blizzard hates shamans!!!!" rage, you have missed the point entirely. Nowhere did I say that Blizzard should start itemising for Combat rogues specifically. In fact, I even indicated that I understood why this has happened - the removal of AP on weapons that meant that swords could no longer be itemised for both Str and Agi classes at the same time, so rogues only share itemisation with Enh shamans (and arguably hunters until MoP). The solution I was arguing for wasn't "give us more swords", it was very clearly "let us transmog our maces, axes and daggers into swords" so that we can use the looks of items created for us in previous years and let us stop having the awkward "applying poison with a hammer" problem and the even more awkward combat animation look of attacking with a huge mallet in one hand and a little dagger in the other.I hate to say it, man - but you're kind of the reason why everyone laughs at Shaman QQ right now.
12-19-2011 @ 6:46AM
The ninja look is part of how I'm doing my rogue alt, so if you figure how to get dual katana models, advertise it loudly. Difference is my base, love the look of the Cadaverous set (nice highlights on a basic black model), with the clefthoof mask (or an eyepatch)
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