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12-20-2011 @ 8:12AM
"He was aggravated because the person that said it had already downed Rag with a pug. So to that person, game was won, screw the others let's move on."This. As someone who is both guild leader AND raid leader (for 3 very successful years now) and leads 2 raid teams, each raiding 2 nights/wk, I can assure you that we are very much aware of how tired some of our raiders get at having to accommodate the learning curve. We feel it too - that impatience. But we have to cheerlead, compromise, encourage, and coach. If one raider is so self-centered that he has to announce his impatience like a child does, instead of showing the maturity and tolerance of a true teammate, you bet your britches it's aggravating. It brings the entire mood and energy down, making more work for us as a leader.To the OP, I would reiterate that the first 4 bosses are astoundingly easy. Both of my raid teams 1-shot Morchok without any prep (ie no one studied the fight), and one of the teams is rather like your raid, having worked for many weeks on Ragnaros before downing him just a few days before Dragon Soul came out. They are a positive group but they have a much steeper learning curve which makes progression slower. Ultraxion was a solid wall for that group, because the overall dps is lower. If any of your dps averages below 22k, Ultraxion isn't going down unless all the others are much higher. We 2-heal that fight, btw. In both raid groups.But the first 4 bosses were very easy for them. Many of my raiders do the Raid Finder a couple of times a week, too, in an attempt to gear up on their own time. I don't personally approve of using the LFR to gear, but it has improved dps a tiny amount (though not raid skills or spatial awareness). I'd split your raid nights. The first four bosses shouldn't take much time and then you can still commit to the staff. Good luck!
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