This reminds me that I need to send logs to my GM; we kicked someone when he wasn't on (yay work + holidays making some officers scarce!).

We're a RP guild, but we have IC and OOC info posted and broken down fairly effectively on our website. We note our expectations, and have people play with us for a bit before even admitting them to our trial rank. Refusing to work with the officers trying to help smooth the transition into a new guild environment, hostility and spreading misinformation in OOC, and lying/story changing (sometimes in the same conversation!) to try to earn sympathy points is not a good way to keep working with a new group, when everything one is doing is already upsetting and confusing established players. I don't think this person even glanced at our info, which is really important to the RP of the guild--and establishes that we are not a progress group (we ally with a sister guild for our progression-ready folks).

There wasn't a hard and fast rule this person was breaking, and I brought up the low-level OOC rank at one point. When advice was ignored and people continued to be bothered, my roommate played 'bad cop' to my 'good cop' (in this guild we're both officers, and it's handy at times) and gave the boot for not working with the guild environment when I finally became too exasperated to calmly deal with it.

The regular guildies said they felt the public parts had been handled as well as could be. The GM later did say he expected the person to not work out, but not to have to be removed like that--they simply refused to leave, or change their behavior. Something had to give.

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