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12-29-2011 @ 4:18AM
There is now a requirement for most pugs to do a minimum dps, everyone is too obsessed by it now. Trade spam is full of people looking for others that have the required item level, achievement and if they don't reach a certain threshold for dps they get no loot. What do they want next? A PhD? A Nobel peace prize? The ability to time travel? What happened to just grouping with people and having this thing called fun? I think it escapes 90% of players.
12-29-2011 @ 3:36AM
Sorry, my first response was assuming that you were talking about LFR or pugging Dragon Soul. If you're talking about 5-mans at this point, I'm not sure what to say. I've pulled guys doing 7k through the new Hour of Twilight heroics and it's fine as long as the other dps are up to par.If you're getting booted for sub par dps, please take some time and look at your gear, spec, etc... and figure out what you could be doing to pull it up some. Some classes have hard rotations, but most at this point are a priority system. Check out rotations online in a lot of forums and that may help a lot. Hint... if you happen to be the paladin I saw last night still using Divine Storm instead of Crusader Strike to dps then I think I found your problem :)
12-29-2011 @ 4:27AM
Hyperbole much? Expecting someone to know the fights and be able to perform their role well is not really asking a whole lot. (Regular) raids are hard, and one underperforming member can make the night a lot less fun for everyone else.If you don't care much about maximizing your dps, that's fine too. There's lfr and lfd just for you, as well as a ton of solo activities. But it strikes me as pretty entitled to think that other folks you don't even know somehow owe it to you to carry you through a raid.
12-29-2011 @ 10:31AM
No one is stopping you from making your own group and having this thing called "fun", whatever that means to you. You can even make yourself master looter, and then when a boss is downed, you can refuse to give loot to the elitist jerk that did 25k dps and is wondering why you did 10k. Of course they'll leave, but hey, you're just having fun, right? If you're trying to do Zon'ozz in normal mode, though, you won't have too much fun unless your idea of fun is wiping endlessly because either healers can't pull 20k hps (because it's not fun), or dps can't pull 30k+ (because it's not fun). For some of us, "fun" is knowing that we're coming pretty close to the maximum of our character's abilities, and what is *not* fun is watching loot go to someone who was afk half the fight, stood in the fire and died, just stood around auto-attacking, etc.If you get 10 people together whose idea of having fun doesn't include knowing the encounter and being able to perform to the encounter's requirements, you won't get very far in Dragon Soul, or even Firelands, and in the end you won't have much fun either.
12-29-2011 @ 10:38AM
BTW, toward the end of wrath, as a new toon reached 85 and got a bit of gear, I used to put together Naxx pugs with both a minimum ilvl requirement and a maximum. The minimum was just there to ensure that people had put some effort into their gear, i.e. a ret pally in leveling greens or int plate wouldn't be coming. Max acceptable ilvl was generally around 220, because running naxx with a bunch of people in ToC/ICC gear just wasn't any fun. I would generally be trolled pretty hard in trade since the trend was to try to run Naxx with ToC/ICC geared people, but usually had a pretty good run with everyone having fun.
12-29-2011 @ 10:39AM
And actually, toward the end of wrath my toons would obviously only be reaching level 80. WTB edit button...
1-05-2012 @ 4:15AM
I did End Time on my Cat Druid that was still in 359 rep-epics. We wiped on Sylvy (heheh) and the tank called me on my low dps and dropped group.Next tank marked the floor with a "kill this ghoul" marker (something the other tank didn't do) and we did fine the first ghoul-grouphug. The healer then lagged out and we wiped, but we were confident and popped her the next time. We even did the achievement where you kill 2 ghouls instead of one !Eat that elitist jerk! :-)
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