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12-29-2011 @ 4:30AM
nosoup4u76, on my realm this is an instant kick:"I've pulled guys doing 7k through the new Hour of Twilight heroics and it's fine as long as the other dps are up to par."I do 15k in the new heroics without really trying. But how can anyone prove their dps unless it they show it? "Why yes my dps meets the reqs, let me in!"I just wander how many more artificial obstacles are going to be put in place by the player-base, because that seems to be the reverse direction that Blizzard is taking this game. There is already LFR and next expansion there will be public quests. No need for an achievement no need to meet a minimum dps. I think the daily quest for Winter Viel: "You're a Mean One..." is an indication of what public quests/world bosses will be like. Nobody can stop someone turning up who is sub-par.
12-29-2011 @ 8:00AM
Oh, I completely agree that someone doing under 10k in the new heroics is doing something seriously wrong. I'm usually around 18-22k and as you say, that's not really even trying. As long as the other dps are good though (I generally tank) I'm fine with one sub-par player in need or gear.As for things like the Winter Veil Greench, I'm not sure that's going to be anything other than a gimmick or the occassional "group" boss for a quest. And if that's the case, who cares is someone sub-par shows up? If it's not hurting my ability to play or complete the quest, they are welcome to the quest rewards just like everyone else. Unlike a lot of people, I don't begrudge people who aren't great getting gear. If they participate and they win the roll, let em have it.
12-29-2011 @ 9:54AM
I run with friends almost exclusively, but occasionally we'll PUG in a spot. When we do, I pretty much don't care how much DPS they do, as long as they don't do any dumb stuff and aren't rude. For LFR - I just ran an LFR the other day where more than 50% of the DPS was doing less than 15k. We wiped once, and that was due to a lack of agreement on slimes on the Skittles boss. Basically, LFR is more about not doing anything (really) stupid than pouring out uber-DPS.Raids - well, I expect that most people looking for raid spots are going to be particularly concerned with your DPS. Look at a fight like Ultraxion. You have to do a minimum amount of DPS in order to complete the fight. So - if you're going to raid, reviewing logs like this and using it to improve your game is critical. Not just for you - you're a part of a larger group, and you owe it to them to do the best you can. IMO.
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