Scattered Shots: Hunter predictions for a new year

Another year of hunting is almost at an end, and that means it's time to dig into the vast past of December 2010, when Cataclysm was fresh and shiny and new and SV hunters were dominating every DPS chart, a time before aspect dancing and when pets still had a happiness system (kind of). That's right, it's time to dust off my 2011 hunter predictions and see how I did. It's also time to make new predictions for the state of hunters going forward in 2012 and take some guesses at what's going to happen with the class in the tumultuous year ahead.
Looking back at some of the changes, it's interesting to see the patterns and similarities in the class over time. SV is again the top DPS spec as it was a year ago -- only now instead of blowing away all comers with pretty demonstrably overpowered DPS, SV is at best middle of the pack. In practice, the hunter class is one of the poorest DPSers this tier.
SV got nuked to death in patch 4.0.6, much as an overpowered BM spec got over-nerfed into oblivion in patch 3.0.8 in early Wrath, except that while overnerfed, SV got it much gentler than BM did back in the day. The nerf bat is hitting a bit softer these days. Let's hope that's a trend that continues.
2011 hunter predictions review
OK, let's take a look at my predictions for hunters in 2011, made in December of 2010. As I recall, I tried to make some pretty aggressive predictions in addition to safe ones, and I'm curious to see what they were. I haven't looked at these in a year!
SV gets nerfed. This was an easy prediction at the time. SV was topping every chart and doing so by huge margins. You want to complain about fire mages now? That's nothing to what SV hunters were doing. There were other overperforming classes, of course, and they got nerfs too.
Unfortunately, SV hunters got nerfed pretty substantially more than they really should have been, and over the course of the year, we saw the gradual retraction of some SV nerfs until only the mastery nerf (15% agility bonus down to 10%) remains.
MM and BM get buffed. This one we knew was coming at the time. I predicted that we'd see a buff to Kill Command, which would later get nerfed again. We did see the buff, but it stuck. We also saw a massive buff to Aimed Shot as well as Chimera Shot, which combined with the huge SV nerfs had every serious raider switching specs to MM for most of the year.
SV remains the top hunter DPS spec. OK, I snuck by on this one. SV is the top hunter DPS spec once again but did not stay there throughout Cataclysm. SV only reclaimed its position in patch 4.3. I think I get only partial credit for this prediction.
There will be two hunter specs very near the top DPS spec. The idea here was that instead of having one clearly dominant spec, we'd have two specs close to each other, though one would be in the lead. This I nailed, with MM and SV both close in DPS and seeing decent representation throughout Cataclysm. Of course, I also went out on a limb and predicted that the two specs would be SV and BM, because I thought BM was assured a decent spot after Wrath, but BM was definitely the third throughout Cataclysm, though not that distant. So I got the vague prediction right and the specific one half wrong.
PvP remains in a rough spot for hunters throughout the year. I predicted minor adjustments, but nothing major changed, with Camouflage remaining mostly useless. I feel like I nailed this one on the head. Happily, we did get some significant acknowledgement from Blizzard that hunter PvP is a problem that needs to be addressed -- but alas, we aren't going to see it addressed until Mists of Pandaria.
The BM bonus ability is changed away from Intimidation. Swung a little too early on that one -- a clear miss. But we did hear that it's changing to Kill Command in MoP.
Counterattack is finally removed from the SV tree. Miss again, and again will be happening in MoP.
Pet collars are introduced into the game. Wishful thinking that didn't come near happening at all. But I'm not giving up!
Predictions for 2012
Well, I did pretty OK for my 2011 predictions. Most of the ones I missed were only partial misses, and I got about as much right as I got wrong. But this year is going to be ridiculously hard, because I predict that we'll see MoP in 2012 -- and that is certain enough that it doesn't count as a prediction.
That means that to really predict the full year, I'm going to have to make some wild guesses about what might happen to hunters in Mists of Pandaria. So fair warning, those are going to look more like guesses than predictions.
- Hunters get a small PvE buff to help Dragon Soul damage. This is actually a wilder a prediction than it sounds. From the data we have right now, hunters are low on the DPS parses, but not very low. Combine that with the fact that the developers are working a lot on the next expansion, and it's easy to leave it be and say things will be better in the expansion. After all, how would you spend your development time: buff a class that's just a few percent below median, or fix the MoP bug that gives warriors three arms? But I think that hunters will make enough noise that we'll get a nice little buff for raid damage. The easiest way would be just extending the raid AP buff to hunters as well as melee, so we'll get 20% AP from the buff rather than 10%.
- Hunter PvP continues to be poor throughout Cataclysm. This is a crazy-safe prediction. Sorry, PvPers.
- Mists of Pandaria alpha and beta launch in February or March. I think we're going to see this far sooner than most people are prediction. In fact ...
- Mists of Pandara releases in the summer of 2012. I think we're going to see it that soon. If I had to really guess, I'd predict a July release.
- Hunters complain mightily about the beta changes. Wait, no, that doesn't even count as a prediction. The only thing guaranteed in any expansion beta is that tons of players will complain about everything.
- BM gets Stampede. An ability to release five (non-controllable) pets at once as a DPS burst on a long cooldown is something we just have to have. I think it will go to BM only as a spec ability.
- Hunters have three actual talent choices. Of the six talents we get to spend in MoP, I'm predicting that half of them will have a "right" answer for most raiding and heroic situations, and half of them will be legitimate anything goes choices. I really hope I'm wrong and they're all choices, but I have a hunch it won't work out.
- Pets get a talent system similar to hunters. I talked about how it could work last week, and I'm betting that Blizzard goes for the cool way of doing it, rather than just removing pet talents entirely.
- PvP gets much better for hunters. We know minimum range is going away, and I don't think that's the only PvP improvement we'll see. I also predict that SV returns as the dominant hunter PvP spec, with BM doing well too. I think MM will fall to the least popular PvP spec.
- Pet collars are introduced. These are nifty ways of customizing your pet a bit further with no graphic (you don't see them on the pet). They are not dropped as raid loot but are only crafted.
- BM is the top DPS spec. Hey, they haven't had their moment in the sun since The Burning Crusade.
- We get a hunter legendary. It's about time. I'm predicting a legendary that is for hunters only -- no other classes. And not some sissy bow, either.
- The world does not end.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 3)
iceveiled Dec 29th 2011 2:18PM
Nice article, I love reading things like this.
A quick mention of a typo:
"OK, let's take a look at my predictions for hunters in 2011, made in December of 2012."
should be december of 2010. Unless you have Dwarven time traveling powers that can only be harnessed after many tankards of ale.
Shadda Dec 29th 2011 9:04PM
Didn't you know? When Grandpappy Frostheim was a wee dwarfling, he travelled to the future to assist a bronze dragon. Though he was warned against it, Frost secreted a copy of Wrynn's E-Sports Almanac back to the past with him. Unfortunately, Deathwing somehow got his hands on the Almanac and used it to gain power, resulting in the Cataclysm and a apocalyptic future known as the "End Time". To avoid this future, Frost was forced to go back to the past and obtain the Dragon Soul... along with the almanac, of course! He then returned to the present and used the book to make his "predictions," but overshot the date by a few years. It's quite an interesting story, really. Someone should make a movie out of it.
Drahken Dec 29th 2011 11:13PM
Great Scott! Shadda, you just made my night.
Scunosi Dec 29th 2011 8:16PM
BM is actually getting it's spec-skill changed to anything other than Intimidate? I must have missed this since I haven't been keeping up with the spec-heavy news, but that's great! Intimidate was always nigh-useless for anything but PvP, and even while leveling it mostly just took up space on my bars.
I wonder though, will it still be available as a talent? Or is it going away entirely?
monotype Dec 29th 2011 8:26PM
God, I want stampede so much I can feel it. Alternately, dual-wielding pets for BM, please. (Not, you know, pets waving two polearms about, although now that I think about it...)
Docseuzz Dec 29th 2011 11:23PM
^ this. BM could lose most of the boring + dmg to pets talents, nerf the mastery bonus some , but allow two CONTROLLABLE pets
Ringo Flinthammer Dec 29th 2011 8:26PM
Camo's a fine ability. It's an upgraded version of the original version of Shadowmeld, and Shadowmeld was a pretty dominant ability once upon a time, when the Pyroblast-style version of Aimed Shot could be cast out of it.
No, it's not a sexy level 85 capstone ability, but it makes hunters arguably the best DPS guards for nodes in PvP, since you, your pet and your traps are all hidden from people wandering by, letting you get a major drop on the enemy when they come by to flip your node.
It's not great for the arena, no question, but the majority of PvP doesn't take place there, despite all the attention arena gets.
crazieanimefan1 Dec 29th 2011 8:59PM
FTW on the hunter legendary!
I'm a BM hunter and I feel like the underclassman of the hunter talents since we do seem weak compared to other times. But I would love for us to finally have our moment in the spotlight...since Blizz seems to view us hunters as not worthy for our own quest line for legendaries like other classes. *pouts*
Braden5792 Dec 29th 2011 9:04PM
As a relatively new hunter main I was wondering what the exact haste breakpoints needed as MM/SV were. I geared my hunter fairly quickly with just a general knowledge of the stat weights and would like to maximize my character as best I can.
Skarn Dec 30th 2011 1:00AM
For Marksman: http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2011/03/mm-hunter-rotation-haste-plateaus/
Survival: http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2011/03/sv-hunter-rotation-haste-plateaus/
And BM anyway: http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/2011/03/bm-hunter-rotation-haste-plateaus/
Check out the rest of the site while you are there! That's Frostheim's site. :)
Braden5792 Dec 30th 2011 1:15AM
Yeah I've looked at that, it's just out dated. Considering I not only have the t13 2 piece bonus I also have the 4 piece, along with a Starcatchers Compass. So my haste is insane at some points given the right procs. Just wondering what I should do with my base haste now lol =\
Stilhelm Dec 30th 2011 3:09AM
Elitistjerks has some new discussion on haste in the MM thread, especially relative to the 2pc and 4pc T13 bonuses. There's some discussion in the SV thread, but nothing really conclusive being determined so far that I've seen.
Brock Dec 29th 2011 9:35PM
I am praying that BM gets a unique ability such as the ability to have two pets out at once instead of lame extra pet talent points. BM needs something to distinguish itself.
I also hope SV gets something to distinguish itself. It needs more SV related skills, and more emphasis on traps.
Banydes Dec 30th 2011 10:13AM
You can buy a Pet collar from a pet vendor in howling fjord. Prety sure I saw one of those vendors in ogrimar as well. What they do is put a leash on your vanity pet so maybe you can use it on hunter/warlock pet.
Hal Dec 30th 2011 12:12AM
Legendary gun, eh? Very interesting. What sort of lore do you imagine for such a piece? I guess it's hard to ponder, given how little we know about MoP lore at this point. But it'd have to be something of incredible construction. Hey, maybe that'd be an opportunity for Mekkatorque to get back in the limelight, by constructing a legendary firearm!
CursedMonk87 Dec 30th 2011 12:40PM
Well think about it: Gunpowder and fireworks pretty much originated in China. Pandaria is the China of Warcraft. Those pandas had a long time to make the perfect explosives and no doubt they had primitive firearms long before the rest of Azeroth. Surely there's a weapon of Legendary status somewhere in Pandaria that would make the engineers in Ironforge wet their beards.
Faroth Dec 30th 2011 1:48AM
The "leaked" schedule slates Mists of Pandaria as being released in Q2 of 2012, which is on target with your prediction.
I asked one of the Blizzard CMs at Blizzcon about a target date for MoP and all he said, with a sly grin, was that the leaked schedule was pretty accurate as far as planned targets go. So I'm expecting you're right with the summer release of Pandaria and beta sooner than expected.
The artists were 100% done with Pandaria the continent at announcement, they were working on populating and putting quests, and the bells and whistles of the world in as well as the dungeons. Much further along than previous expansions at announcement.
What? A hunter legendary? Pfsh, no. We already got one, remember? Ghostcrawler mentioned it in reference to the rogues getting a class exclusive. Thori'dal is a hunter-exclusive legendary.......as of Mists of Pandaria, nobody else can equip it. -_-
Elzam Dec 30th 2011 2:00AM
I'd eat my hat if Hunters got a Legendary in MoP. For better (for a few) or worse (everyone else), Monks are going to be the golden child of Blizzard for at least a year or two, just as DKs were. We're likely to be seeped in just as much Monk interaction in MoP as we were with Death Knights in WotLK, and it's a good excuse for Blizz to support them. I think Blizz will return to the medium between the one-class daggers and every-caster-wants-this Dragonwrath and try to cover a few classes with each legendary. Feral Druids and Monks would both be covered by a nice staff. It would seem like salt in the wounds to Hunters though, having that slot removed in MoP...
delpietro1 Dec 30th 2011 5:51AM
You do realize that the first legendary in wotlk wasn't intended for DK's at all? The whole expansion can provide multiple legendaries and IMHO a hunter one isn't as crazy idea as it seems.
01kay Dec 30th 2011 4:23AM
Go go legendary gun; "The Pwnmaker"!