Lichborne: Siege of Wyrmrest Raid Finder advice for the death knight

Once you've finished the new patch 4.3 dungeons and gained a bit of loot from them, you may ask yourself: What's next? One of the most obvious answers is the Raid Finder tool. You'll get better loot and faster valor point gain, as well as some starting experience in the raid game if you ever get the desire or chance to join an organized raiding group.
Still, the idea of heading into a raid (even a simple one) can be a little daunting, so today I'd like to help allay your fears by giving you a quick look at the first of the Raid Finder scenarios, the Siege of Wyrmrest.
Before we get into the boss strategies, though, there are a few things you should get down.
- Make sure your gear's good enough. If you can, get it gemmed (with strength gems) and enchanted. While you can head into Raid Finder as low as ilevel 372, don't be afraid to pick up an extra piece of gear or two from the heroic dungeons. A good weapon upgrade, for example, will do wonders for your DPS.
- If you can afford them, consider grabbing some consumables. A Flask of Steelskin and some Lavascale Minestrone for tanks or a Flask of Titanic Strength and some Beer-Basted Crocolisk for DPS will put your performance at the next level, and for a good group, you'll only need one flask to face the whole dungeon. Morchok's easy enough that sometimes I save the flask until we engage the second boss, just to make sure it stretches.
- Follow your raid leader. A raid is only as good as its raid leader and its members' abilities to follow their raid leaders' instructions, even in Raid Finder. Use these boss strategies, but defer to your raid leader where you can. They don't always know what they're doing, but in Raid Finder, sometimes that doesn't matter; either way, the more everyone works together, the easier things become.
- Don't Panic and don't get uptight. This is a pickup group, so things will go wrong and people will randomly drop between groups. Just stay loose, have fun, and be prepared to wait a bit for replacements in between each boss. Griping just makes it less fun for everyone.
Morchok
Morchok is a relatively easy boss, but he does have a few abilities to watch for. The first is Crush Armor, which reduces the tank's total armor. If you're tanking the fight, be sure to set up a swap with your fellow tank -- whenever one of you reaches four to five stacks, ask for a taunt. (Make a macro that says "/raid Crush Armor stacks are high, please taunt" or something to that effect, if you need to.) Then, once your partner's armor stacks are just as high, if your stacks have dropped off, taunt back.
Stomp is the next ability, which does some AoE damage split evenly between all players within 25 yards. We don't have to worry about this too much, since we'll always be within 25 yards, but there is a caveat -- the two players nearest the boss take extra damage. Honestly, as a DPSer, if I have full health, I sometimes like to slap on Icebound Fortitude and move close enough to take the extra damage. It won't kill me, I'll be alive, and if the current tank has a high Crush Armor stack, it may just save his life. It's not mandatory, of course, but it's an idea. Of course, the opposite applies. If you're relatively low health when the Stomp comes, you may want to back off a yard or two just to ensure you aren't hit with more damage than you can take.
The Resonating Crystals Morchok throws out require seven people to be right up on top of them to make them explode with people taking the minimum damage. If you are far away from the crystal and are targeted by one of its rays, you will take a lot of damage. In a perfect group, your ranged players will take care of this, but if it looks like they aren't and you're DPS, don't be afraid to pick up the slack and run for a crystal. Sure, your DPS will go down, but you may keep the raid alive. Tanks should, of course, avoid the crystals. They have other sources of damage to deal with.
From time to time, Morchok will pull everyone toward him and stun them. As soon as the stun drops, he will begin to bleed, and this blood will do major damage. You can mitigate this damage a bit with Anti-Magic Shell, but you will want to run out of it and to the stones at the sides of the battlefield. If you hide behind these stones, you can avoid the blood and (if you position yourself just right) throw a few ranged attacks at him. Once the blood disappears, you can run back in and engage him.
Zon'ozz
Warlord Zon'ozz is a relatively easy encounter for Raid Finder. Tanks just need to tank him facing away from the raid so that he doesn't hit the DPS with his cone attack. Honestly, you can probably get away with one well-geared tank for this encounter, but if his Focused Anger or Psychic Drain takes out one tank, it may be good to have another tank waiting in the wings too. That said, if you use two tanks, the off tank should stay behind with the DPS until needed to avoid healing the boss.
The other major thing Zon'ozz does is summon a ball called the Void of the Unmaking that must be bounced between the ranged and melee players until it has built up stacks and can be bounced at the boss. The bounce mechanic is a bit more forgiving in Raid Finder mode, doing less damage to the bouncers, to the point I have seen some raid groups simply assign two people to bounce it back and forth.
Try to get to it bouncing between your ranged and DPS groups, and assign one from each DPS group to make sure it's properly bounced, and you should do fine. Once it hits about 10 stacks, you'll want to let it hit the boss, at which point he will go into an AoE phase. Everyone should collapse on the boss. Use your defensive cooldowns to avoid his AoE damage, and your offensive cooldowns since he'll be vulnerable to more damage thanks to the ball. I have also had one or two raid groups ignore the ball altogether, which is possible in Raid Finder mode but will also mean the fight takes longer due to a smaller damage debuff.
Yor'sahj the unsleeping
The big issue with Yor'sahj is keeping track of which slimes he's spawning. Every so often during his fight, he will spawn a group of multicolored slimes. One of these slimes must die, because when the slimes reach him, they will give him some powerful buff. You will only have time to choose one slime, so choose well. It is always best to follow the raid leader's kill order so everyone's on the same page, but my preferred priority is to kill the purple slime, the yellow slime, then the green slime. That is, if purple's not up, kill yellow instead, and so on. You can remember this easily too, since the acronym is PYG, which sounds like the animal that provides everyone's favorite breakfast meats. If you're the tank, you'll be focused on the boss, of course, but as a DPSer you should be ready to break from the boss as soon as the slimes appear. Use your offensive cooldowns if you need to -- just kill that slime before it hits Yor'sahj.
Yor'sahj's slime buffs are pretty weak on Raid Finder, but there are a couple to worry about it. One of them will make him summon a Mana Void, which leeches mana. This won't directly affect us since we don't use mana, but if you're a DPSer, break from Yor'sahj and take it down. Your healers will thank you. Likewise, there's another possible slime buff that will summon a multitude of adds. When they appear, you will definitely want to go into AoE mode, using Howling Blast spam or Blood Boil and Death and Decay to deal with deal with them as appropriate. Also, some of the oozes will cause Yor'sahj to deal AoE damage. Use defensive cooldowns to mitigate as needed.
For the most part, tanks have this fight pretty easy. Just keep Yor'sahj occupied, and you should be fine. Use some AoE if you can when the Forgotten One adds show up.
Hagara the Stormbinder
Hagara is a pretty easy fight to tank. Just try to tank her off to one side if you can; that way, you'll have time to dodge her ice spikes when she runs to the center of the room to summon them. It's also worth noting that you can step backward from her Focused Assault. Otherwise, she's pretty easy on Raid Finder mode. As a melee player, you shouldn't have to worry too much until her ice and lightning phase.
For the Lightning Storm, she'll put lightning spires at the edge of the room, one of which will have an elemental guardian. Destroy that guardian, then begin running around the edges of the ring, generally in a clockwise direction. This is because in order to take down the spires, you need to make the lightning they emit chain between them. The lightning will jump from player to player, so if you spread out, they will eventually jump from one spire to another. You need to do this as quickly as possible, since the lightning does do damage, and that damage will eventually overwhelm your healers. Use your Anti-Magic Shell if you need to to mitigate a bit of it.
For the ice phase, you need to watch for the Ice Waves she sends out. These waves will turn into four walls of ice that will start rotating. If you are hit by a rotating ice wall, you will die. So in order to beat this phase, you need to run around the outer ring, dodging the ice walls and at the same time killing the four ice crystals she has set up. This can be difficult for us as melee players, for sure, since we can't get so fixated on killing a crystal we get caught in the ice wave behind us.
When you successfully defeat a lightning phase, Hagara will get a damage debuff for 15 seconds, so this is a good time to unload all your offensive cooldowns to do maximum damage.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
(cutaia) Jan 3rd 2012 2:11PM
If you're doing an LFR specific slime kill priority, I would disagree with throwing green in there. I'd choose black as the last one for that, since the damage from green oozes doesn't splash in LFR and therefore doesn't require the more complex spreading out required in normal mode. The adds from the black, however, consistently seem to stay up too long in LFR due to tunnel-visioned DPS.
But honestly, it doesn't matter too much.
I actually usually just stick with Purple>Green>Yellow when I lead it just for the sake of giving newer raiders some practice/knowledge for when/if they decide to get into normal modes.
(cutaia) Jan 3rd 2012 2:13PM
Also, on Hagara, one tip with the ice phase I have is this:
I've seen a lot of folks die because their first ice crystal dies TOO quickly, and in the moment, they start running to the next one and totally get hit by the wall as it's spawning. If your first crystal dies quickly...just have patience and wait for the wall, even if you think you can beat it. :P
Narayana Jan 3rd 2012 2:29PM
Yeah- green is pretty weak on RF. As both the OP stated and your post indicates, though- the actual order is less important than getting some sort of agreement on an order. The fight isn't all that much more difficult if you go Green>Blue or Blue>Green, but you will wipe if half the group thinks it's Blue and the other half thinks it's Green.
Meighan Jan 3rd 2012 4:23PM
I had someone in LFR argue vehemently that green has been hotfixed to chain on lfr. Later, we got both red and green alive, and incoming damage was totally manageable, so I'm inclined to think they were lying. Confirmation either way?
KPB Jan 3rd 2012 4:36PM
It doesn't splash and isn't suppose to so won't get hotfixed since it isn't broken. Just check the Dungeon journal and compare LFR to 10 or 25 man.
Mondi Jan 4th 2012 1:04AM
Yes green is nerfed to the ground in LFR, so it can be ignored with no real risk, but if whoever is calling a color or setting the priority says green, then green it is. Just make sure something dies. I've seen raids in LFR with half the group on green and half on something else just because people on both sides were too stubborn, and that's never a good thing.
And totally right on Hagara's ice phase: if you kill your ice dealie too quick just wait for the ice wall and follow it. Trying to get in front of it will just get you killed. And if it somehow doesn't get you killed, you'll only get about one second on the next crystal because that wall you just skipped is right behind you and coming right for you.
loop_not_defined Jan 4th 2012 7:19AM
Never make Blue a priority in LFR.
There's only 6 combinations in LFR, and only one of those combinations DOESN'T have Purple or Yellow. It's Black, Green, Red. If you make Blue a priority, you will never kill it.
Since everybody but Hunters should be stacking on the boss anyways, Red shouldn't be an issue. Definitely make Black the third priority.
Narayana Jan 3rd 2012 2:50PM
What's the ideal Void Bolt stack to taunt on for Yor'Sahj? I tanked it for the first time last night and the other tank got pissed because I taunted off of him when he had 3 stacks. I think he figured I was trying to be a hero, but I'm so used to 3 or 4 stacks being the "right" number.
He proceeded to let me die by refusing to taunt off of me, and I made it to about 10 stacks (so an additional 25K DPS) before the healers couldn't keep me up any more.
Every group will be different, but what;s the generally accepted level?
(cutaia) Jan 3rd 2012 3:09PM
Every group will be different, yes. Your group, for example, was different for its notable inclusion of an idiot tank.
3 is exactly what I taunt at, and it's what I've heard pretty much every guide ever suggest. It sounds more like HE was trying to be a hero and your correct handling of the mechanics made his little ePeen hurt.
Narayana Jan 3rd 2012 3:30PM
Thanks!
It was an odd experience. I was sitting there watching my stacks increment- doing everything I could to stay alive, so I didn't bother typing in chat. Another player in the group told him taunt and the other tank responds with something to the effect of "Maybe if you (directed at me) didn't taunt off me early, I would taunt."
I'm not sure if decorum is different with the first VB, since the first slimes seemed to come out shortly after I taunted.
I dunno- it wasn't a big deal. I got b-rezzed and we finished the boss and Hagara with no further issues.
Nyold Jan 3rd 2012 3:42PM
Please tell me at least the other tank got vote-kicked though....
KPB Jan 3rd 2012 4:42PM
I've done this fight a couple times where the only time we tank swapped was when the tank died which was a pain in the but as a healer. I think it stacks up quickly enough and lasts long enough that if you taunt at 3 the other tank won't be able to taunt back until 4 or 5 but for lfr any sort of attempt at tank swapping is good enough.
karatesmashunhurt Jan 4th 2012 9:36AM
In normal we usually one tank it - since the dot falls off when Yorsahj is channelling. So his method is viable - but only if the healers know that the tank will take a lot of damage, and are able to deal with it. But in LFR, why risk that?
czeric Jan 3rd 2012 2:40PM
I heard that you don't really need to bounce the ball during Zon'ozz fight in LFR. Is it true?
Narayana Jan 3rd 2012 2:51PM
The ball will always bounce back, so you don't need to actively bounce it back and forth. most RF groups that I have run have had one guy manage the ball- sometimes the OT, sometimes the RL.
KPB Jan 3rd 2012 4:39PM
In LFR the ball will always eventually hit the boss to reset the stacks of rising anger so the tank doesn't get jibbed. You can completely ignore it and still complete the fight however the damage it does is pretty minimal and 1 person chasing it around will cause it to give stacks of the debuff to the boss that increases damage done so making the fight much shorter overall.
Methuus Jan 3rd 2012 5:43PM
And at 10 stacks, the ball will automatically go back to Yor'sahj and trigger the other phase, even if players are standing between Yor'sahj and the ball (in LFR only, of course).
So there's no need to get into a big fight with melee to try to get them to move out of the way.
DracoSuave Jan 3rd 2012 3:02PM
Green slime is the least important slime in LFR.
Red is more likely to tax your healers more because it does way more damage if anyone isn't stacked; almost a certainty in LFR. The only time Green does noticeable damage is if it's paired with yellow... but that's why Yellow's second, right?
INCH75 Jan 3rd 2012 3:10PM
Don't forget that you can Dark Simulacrum Hagara's Shattered Ice attack. It's good for a nice DPS boost.
goldeneye Jan 9th 2012 10:06AM
If only that'd work for Black Blood of the Earth :p