Gold Capped: The fastest way to make 10,000 gold

Every so often, I get asked something to the effect of "What's the fastest way to get 10,000 gold?" It's usually asked by someone who is perpetually poor in game and is looking to get a BoE or some other sort of reward that costs gold. The fastest way for me to get 10,000 gold is to log in and check my mail. My daily haul is many times that and scales based on how much time I have to craft, list, and relist. This isn't a useful answer to someone who lives paycheck to paycheck, though. So what advice would be helpful?
First off, if you're below level 85, get to level 85. This nets you quite a bit of gold simply from quest rewards and vendoring gear you acquire. If you're already level 85, the first thing you need to do is identify how much money you can make per hour running 5-mans for valor points that you can use to sell BoEs. On my realm, I could sell a BoE costing 1,650 VPs for about 10,000 gold. That means every valor point I earn could be worth 6 gold, which makes the 150 points I get from a 5-man worth 900g. I can do seven per week per character with the requisite gear. Also, every trash kill and boss kill has a chance of awarding you with valuables, including enchanting mats (if someone can DE) and BoEs.
Downtime between instances
Unless you're queuing as a tank or healer, though, you're going to have significant downtime. What can you do while queued to make money? For starters, professions. Every single profession has something it can do to make money. If you have herbalism, skinning, or mining, farm. Put your goods on the Auction House a little higher than the lowest, but undercut the biggest quantity listed. If you have crafting professions, you can spend your queue time in front of the Auction House trying to find items that you can craft that will get purchased and cost less to make than they'll sell for.
As soon as you're involved in the AH, you will definitely want to replace the base AH interface with Auctionator. It allows you to see on one page how many auctions are at each price. There's no need to manually read each auction and try to work it out for yourself.
Next up, basic arbitrage is something anyone can do while waiting for a queue to pop. Buy something that can be transformed and sold in its new form. For example, Greater Celestial Essences can be turned into Lesser Celestial Essences with a right-click, and these will sometimes sell for more than a third. Some professions can do things like this, too.
- The raw gems obtained from Prospecting just about any type of ore will be worth more than the ore itself.
- The inks obtained from Milling are worth more than the herbs needed to make them.
- The mats obtained from Disenchanting are sometimes worth more than the items you can disenchant.
- Heavy Savage Leather might sell for more than the five Savage Leather it takes to make them.
- Bolts of cloth might sell for more than the cloth itself.
The sunset of profit from dailies
Notice how my advice doesn't include dailies? That's because until you've exhausted your VP gains for the week, queuing for sellable VPs will be way more than anyone can make doing dailies. Daily quests were a viable way of making money when most people thought that 100 gold was a lot. Nowadays, that's one repair bill. Dailies should be done for reputation, gear, or fun, but never money. You can make more gold per hour doing just about anything with a profession than you ever will doing dailies.
The other bad, outdated advice I'd like people to ignore is grinding. Killing lots of monsters is a very low amount of money per hour compared to almost any alternative, unless you're skinning. Even then, all the non-leather you get from skinning is a drop in the bucket compared to how much you get from the leather.
Escaping the cycle
There is a middle ground between being a multimillionaire and being completely broke. There are lots of people who always have 30k to 50k gold around in case they decide to splurge on something, but they don't spend as much time keeping that balance as I do making my millions.
What's the difference between someone who is consistently broke and one of these middle-class players? Believe it or not, I don't think income is much of a factor. I suspect that a large part of the middle class makes money the same way I've outlined here. The biggest difference is how they choose to spend their money.
The best advice I can give someone trying to get out of the grinding for gold cycle is to look very carefully at where you spend your money and decide whether focusing in on what's really important to you would help you achieve your goals. You won't have to have to farm your butt off saving up for a Hagara pick-pocket if you hadn't spent all the gold you made last patch on mounts, vanity pets, and other less important items. Have a minimum balance in mind, and until you're at that level, don't spend anything.
The reality is that most people don't bother with gold making because there really isn't much you can do with it. But if you treat the 10k (or 30k or 50k) gold mark as your zero balance, then you'll be able to splurge every time something new comes out.
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 4)
StClair Jan 6th 2012 11:21PM
I wondered if anyone was gonna comment on that...
I miss it too.
Philster043 Jan 7th 2012 6:11AM
That is the one zone I hated seeing change in Cataclysm. I still haven't brought myself to re-do that zone. It just doesn't have the same wonder it used to have for me anymore.
Zamboni Jan 6th 2012 4:13PM
You can also queue for a heroic while soloing another instance. Pillaging BC or LK heroics in between Twilight runs can be quite lucrative, and even older items such Heavy Junkboxes from LBRS can be worth 20-50g each to the right buyer. The key is to be doing *something* instead of sitting in town swapping Thunderfury jokes while waiting for queues to pop. (I'll even take a few dozen stacks of ores and herbs into raids with me to work on during quiet times before pulls. It adds up.)
Agony Jan 6th 2012 4:33PM
I'm sorry, but the tone of this article started out like Herman Cain. "If you're not rich, it's your own fault!"
Money in-game is there to be used for this or that, but it's in a GAME. You can have FUN in the game without hoarding hundreds of thousands of "gold". In the end, you turn off the machine for the day...what do you ACTUALLY have?
Now some people may have fun making their virtual cash, and that's fine - that's what the game is for: to have FUN.
The problem stems from the fact that too many people are setting the economy to be horrible and intimidating for someone just coming up through the levels without a rich bank-alt or guild leader. "Inventory is full" - sorry, bags cost you 150 gold. "L2P, n00b!" seems to be the answer more frequently given.
Me? I've been playing since vanilla and my way of playing the game is this: I like exploring, collecting vanity pets...and you know what? I have about a dozen alts and only ONE character at max level. You know what? I...have...FUN. (Oh, and none of them have anywhere near 10,000 gold except for my main, let alone having a "daily haul [that's] many times that"...and I still have FUN.
Now for those who want to get loads of "money", your article may well help them (but it could still have less "I'm rich and you're not but if you follow my formula, you can be too" attitude), but when too many people think that "money" and raiding is all that there is to the game, it might well kill it for those who are new to it. Maybe this is one of the reason why Blizzard's figures are down? Conjured food for thought, eh?
Cambro Jan 6th 2012 6:00PM
You can have fun without gold. You can also have fun with gold. And, you can have fun making gold. But you can't have the having-gold fun if you don't have the gold. So if you want to have the having-gold fun, you need to get the gold. Blizzard doesn't give you free gold, life doesn't give you free money. Either way, you have to do something to get it, then you can have the kind of fun that your gold (or money, IRL) will allow you to have. That's what the point of the article is.
You're not a gold-haver, but you want to have a little gold-having fun, so how do you get some gold quickly? Basil's suggestions are not to become a server gold tycoon or buy gold or buy a $10 pet and sell it for 5000 gold. He suggests, appropriately, ways that the average non-auction house-minded player can quickly get some gold: run heroics, get valor points, buy BOE gear, and sell it. Have a gathering profession, gather while you're waiting on your heroic, sell what you gather. Have a crafting profession, craft stuff, sell it. It all takes some amount of effort, but the effort level is low and (except for maxing out a crafting profession) time involvement is minimal.
Basil Berntsen Jan 6th 2012 6:00PM
First, this isn't my formula -- I've outlined that in other posts. This is advice that someone who doesn't want to play the money game can hopefully put to good use without having to go down the rabbit hole of addons, economics, and hours a week of AH work.
Secondly, the market is not exclusive, it's inclusive. Right now, if you completely ignore gold and just get to 85, you'll have a small fortune. If you decide that you want a big fortune, it's more accessible than ever. There's no requirement for entry other than making the decision to spend some time on it.
loli.gigis Jan 6th 2012 4:35PM
My main has 16k. I sold one pair of BOE boots at the beginning of this patch for 15k and thats about it other then selling the on and off stack of fortune cookies. Other then gems and enchants I don't buy much else and most of my gems I bought for a fraction of the cost before this patch. On my Alliance alt 85 I have 6k on her... and since the server she is on is pretty dead alliance side 6k is honestly more money then I will ever need on her. If I do buy anything it's stuff to level up my professions if I just need like one or two more points - even then.
About the only thing I will splurge on is recipes for my Blacksmith - I have a thing about collecting all the ones I can but even then I am very judicious in how buy them. I have an add on to tell me if I am about to buy something that can be easily farmed or bought from a vendor. Low drops from old raids are about the only recipes I will actually drop a chunk of change on - if I see the price is higher then I am willing to pay sometimes i will message the seller directly about negotiating a cheaper price for myself.
Money is all about perception, I am perfectly comfortable where I am and have no desire to grind out more. My husband on the other hand has an expensive taste in mounts and pets so he keeps much more on his person then I do. He would consider himself 'low on funds' if he only had 16k.
Shadda Jan 6th 2012 4:48PM
*Examines mushroom chair*
Not the wisest way to spend 500g, but the shear amusement I get from pulling out to sit on between pulls makes it worth every copper.
Joakim Jan 6th 2012 4:57PM
On my server disenchanted mats usually sell for more than either crafted items or the ore or cloth (funny sentence, that :) ) used to make them. So I've started combining my slow journey to the end of archaeology with mining. Low level ores get shipped to a bank alt, who converts them into armor, then shipped to another bank alt, who disenchant them ... and I net about 1.5-4.5 K gold every week on dusts etc alone. Sometimes I have to repost, but as arcane and infinite dust go they sell like butter in a volcano. So fast there's even no sizzle.
Same goes for collected cloth (except embersilk, wich I turn into bags that sell for around300 G each) and, sicne I'm farming BC dungeons for rep, dropped greens and blues from BC dungeons.
And once in a while a purple drops. That makes me happy. Especially if I come across a rare purple. Blade of Wizardry dropped and was AH'd a few times over before it sold for 7K ... and now I'm hoping it will drop again, since I realized a flaming sword word be _just the thing_ for my pretty mage :)
I don't mind really if I "have to" spend 5-6K on a purple item on the AH. It's means to and end; better gear makes the rep farming easier. Some of the baddies in heroic BC dungeons hit clothies really hard ... *still scared of fel overseers* Plus it makes it a bit easier in Cata dungeons as well.
Abbadon Jan 6th 2012 5:35PM
Yea, it's really odd... Because once you get the ball rolling, the money making machine practically runs itself. I can craft, post, and repost all pretty mindlessly while perusing the internet or watching a show on the 2nd monitor. But getting your foot in the door to begin with can often seem overwhelming.
I used to horde my savings for the sake of having X gold. Then a bud made the remark one day, "What are you ever going to do with it all?" From that point on, I started pursuing my TCG mount collection with more vigor. But there's something weird I noticed for some time now... Whenever I spend gold, I tend to make it back really quick. I seem to constantly keep the same amount in savings no matter how much I spend.
Abbadon Jan 6th 2012 5:38PM
Oh... forgot to add my testimony for Auctionator!
Auctioneer's failure to update their addon for 4.3 finally pushed me to try Auctionator. The setup was rather easy, and YOWZA!! Buying has never been easier! Even the Sell feature works well.
Edymnion Jan 6th 2012 5:44PM
Small correction. Auctioneer did not fail to update, the sites like Curse failed to put it up. You could go to the Auctioneer site and get the manual install a few days after the patch. I know, I did so.
Cambro Jan 6th 2012 5:50PM
To be fair, they had been updating it according to what was on the PTR, but Blizzard slipped in a couple of things to the live release that weren't on the PTR and that is what broke. It's not that they weren't actively updating it. It took 3-4 days to get a couple of things fixed, and they've had a fully functioning version out for a couple of weeks now.
It was 4.3 and the sudden breakage of Auctioneer that got me to try out Auctionator. I don't like it. I'm too used to Auctioneer, but at least I was able to list things and keep up with the madness. Now I'm back to using Auctioneer with all its useful historical data. :)
Abbadon Jan 6th 2012 6:35PM
OK... Yea, I saw the thread in the Auctioneer forums explaining that there were last minute changes made by Blizz and that they were working on adapting. But it took them more than a few days... I kept checking for updates on their site for several days. I even tried the developer's version.
Regardless of the situation, my point was that I couldn't go more than a day without a good method of sorting and buying off the AH. This is what forced me to finally try Auctionator, and for me, it's definitely better for buying.
There're just a couple things that could be better, though. When selling multiple stack sizes, it seems inefficient to have to constantly re-drag the item to the Sell box to post the next stack size. And when changing the auto-sell price to something higher, it's annoying that it doesn't remember this price when you drag the item back again for the next size.
Faxmonkey Jan 6th 2012 5:51PM
Honestly, with current market conditions you should be well on track to, if not already at, 10k gold by the time you hit level 85. It may not be the case on small population servers/factions, but certainly on Blackrock you can earn easily up to 200g or even more for many of the low level BoE green items you pick up on the way. For someone looking for a specific transmog look, the right BoE green can be as rare a drop as an epic and people would rather pay 200g per piece of Aurora set cloth (as a for instance) than to farm Cathedral for 10 hours.
robsmith77 Jan 6th 2012 5:57PM
For people who want to make money quickly, the bottom line is, you're not going to make any money without putting the effort in. The quicker you want to make a certain amount, the more effort it's going to take, particularly if you're doing it from a standing start.
bilbomoody Jan 6th 2012 6:10PM
"What's the difference between someone who is consistently broke and one of these middle-class players?"
Time.
I disagree with your assumption that people who don't have 10-30K laying around is because they've spent it all. When you only have 6-8 hours a week to play, you raid for 4-5 of those and still need VP gear so you can't spend the ones you get in randoms, you end up in a situation where you average from 1-6K and every time you grab a piece of gear and have to enchant/gem/reforge or run out of flasks/buff food, you drain your account a bit. I never had more than 15K gold until I ran across a BoE epic world drop doing dailies in the Molten Front...
Lol, I don't even have time to cap VP on one character, let alone both characters I have at 85 - sounds like you have time to cap VP on a handful of characters... just how much time does that take anyway? At 45 minutes a run on average, 7 runs per character for 5 characters... that's over 26 hours. So yeah... 26 hours to get 31,500 gold... thing is you have to do it over the span of 2 weeks (okay, okay, technically 9 days if you can run 35 randoms in the first two days after the reset) to make enough VP to buy the gear to sell.
I suppose I could stop my casual raiding, but that's what I enjoy so... I'll just be content to live at the 'poverty line' and dream of being someone who has 20+ hours a week to play and can spend several hours farming mats to sell on the AH. If you can teach me how to make 10,000 gold quickly - as in less than a month, while only spending an hour a week to do so - then I'm all ears!!
Smashbolt Jan 8th 2012 3:44PM
Did you read the part where Basil told you to not just sit in town while queued? Use that queue time to farm, or to snoop the AH to see what you can craft for a profit. If you're running in all-guild groups, or you're a tank/healer and have fast queues, you can't do this, obviously... but even if you don't have that kind of downtime while waiting, there are certainly ways to go about it.
Several here have already said that gold-making sort of avalanches over time. When you start, your returns will be very low, so be careful with what you try to sell. You're getting used to what is worth making, you don't have much gold to buy mats with yet, and (if you get something like TSM) your addons aren't helping you as much as they could. Put in a little extra time for the first couple of weeks to get that all figured out, and then once you can quickly identify (or automate) select what to make, your processing time is reduced to just buying mats, crafting and posting. Whatever your professions (aside from maybe engineering), once you're set up, there is definitely a way to take 10-15 minutes three or four times a week, and turn that into 10k+ a month.
If regular effort and maintenance isn't your thing, then you can go with the patch rushes instead. At every new content patch and expansion release, many items sell for much, much higher than they did even the day before the patch. For patches, during the middle of a patch cycle, stock up on lower priced consumables like gems, enchants and flasks that are popular and re-list them on the next patch day for obscene profit. For expansion launches, this may be less fun if you're gunning for the new level cap, but spend some time the first few days farming as much as you can for the new materials. At Cata launch, Elementium Ore and herbs like Whiptail sold for 800g a stack or more on some servers. Prepare correctly in either case, and you can easily see profits of 20k gold per hour's effort.
Schadenfreude Jan 6th 2012 6:47PM
Are dailies really not that great for making money anymore? Unfortunately I'm on a very low pop server so it's nearly impossible to play the AH. We had a friend transfer here hoping to do just that but he was unable to shift much product.
Philster043 Jan 7th 2012 6:18AM
Not as much as it used to be in WoTLK. Suddenly the gold rewards for dailies just aren't worth the same time investment as doing other things like farming and crafting and selling BoEs on the AH. Gold is still gold though and if you're doing the dailies for reputation or mounts or whatever, it'll still add to your overall amount, but it won't help you buy what you want as quickly because with Cata's inflation, the amount of gold you need for something valuable now far exceeds what you can make with dailies in a week, month, whatever now.
But if you're on a low pop server you gotta do what you can do, I guess.