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1-11-2012 @ 7:02PM
..."the Titans, when they created the dragon aspects, seemingly knew that one of them would go mad and align himself with the Old Gods..."* Neltharion/Deathwing: The above is 100% true.* Ysera: Trapped for a jillion years in the Emerald Nightmare, presumably by Old Gods and/or Hakkar. So the above is also, loosely, true.* Malygos: Driven insane by Neltharion's actions with the Demon/Dragon Soul, then turning against the other dragonflights and the Kirin Tor to do his whole ley line business. So by association, the above is (even more) loosely true. * Nozdormu: Trapped in all the various timeways and variously turning into Murozond and spawning the Infinites and so on, and he reveals at the end of Twilight of the Aspects (spoilers, but really, the book's been out for months and it takes about 45 minutes to read) that he believes that Old God influence was to blame. So, taking into account his bad-guy future self, the above is also quite true.* Alexstrasza: Captured and made a brood queen for the Dragonmaw, acting under orders of Zuluhed, who was in turn influenced by Mannoroth, who was in turn acting under orders from Sargeras. My point is that bad things have happened repeatedly to all the Aspects over time, and directly or indirectly, Old God influence has been responsible for four out of five of those. I think the only link not made in this chain is whether Sargeras is influencing, or, more interestingly, being influenced by, the Old Gods. In any case, it seems clear at this stage that the Aspects were the protective layer put in place by the Titans to guard the mortal races of Azeroth (and Draenor, it seems safe to assume they saw Medivh coming too) from Sargeras and/or the Old Gods until they were strong and organized enough to defeat an Aspect themselves, which is why the Aspects now deem themselves irrelevant to Azeroth. This also plays out in the Lich King storyline, when we discover at the end he only let us beat all his lieutenants and whatnot to toughen us up so we could take their places. But from a gameplay perspective, in the Wrathgate cinematic it was pretty badass to see a crapload of dragons fly in and save the day, but I think Blizzard has realized you can only go back to the deus ex draco so many times before it becomes player characters running errands for the real powers of the world, whereas the players are supposed to be the heroes. In any case, they've actually done a fine job of writing the Aspects out of the story, and with Deathwing dead, their relevance is actually quite diminished in any case.
1-29-2012 @ 10:00PM
Although my intimate knowledge of WoW lore doesn't extend very far into the past (I started with WoW in the closing weeks of TBC), I read determinedly to expand it. In my opinion Sargeras would not be in a position to be able to influence the Old Gods, since he is of titanic design himself. It is not very plausible that one titan alone would have the potential to influence the mystery of the Old Gods over the others, since they are all complete and perfect as Mr Rossi wrote. I would conjecture that one of two situations is the case. The first and less likely is that Sargeras (lawful evil (in my opinion)) and the Old Gods (chaotic evil (presumed)) operate with unified intent, Sargeras being under the direct influence of the Old Gods. However I believe Sargeras was corrupted by the inherent chaos coexistent and interdependent of order in the universe, which is the reason for the Old Gods' existence, rather than an Old God's direct whisperings. Hence the second more likely situation: Sargeras had within him a disposition towards such a corruption by such a universally present chaos, perhaps due to his role as a protector and therefore a wager of (protective) war; any war is a chaotic process, regardless of whether it achieves or re-establishes order or fails to do so. Thus he would be operating with intent separate from the Old Gods'. The very fact that Sargeras has his nihilistic, fatalist principles separates him from the Old Gods, who do not have intent at all, and are rather analogous to entropy."Oh, what horror await..."—General Vezax
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