@Moonflaxx

The issue is there's no distinction between turning the nerf off or on. It'll still count as the raid was done.

The point about Firelands and the nerf, was players were trying to do it before the nerf came as a measure of skill. I especially liked the raid because it was about communication and coordination, which encouraged the raid to actually work more as a team (not every man for himself). It was rough, but I was there for hours (8hrs one night, even), and enjoying the experience.

Being in a small guild I have to PuR to raid and enjoy LFR for that purpose, but honestly would prefer to raid normally (and if ever, to do HMs). It's the sense of accomplishment that LFR and the nerfs kill, and that's why progression raiders moan when nerfs do come. It's then everyone wants to do it (those who would not do it when the raid was hard) and with little discipline, too. It goes from a more adult atmosphere to talking strat and all, to kids wanting to race through and if *they* fail blaming everyone else. The closeness raiding can offer is lost, to just be replace with a larger LFR type group. Spoils the fun.