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1-19-2012 @ 4:39PM
I'm in a 10 man raiding guild 4/8 and we should be 5/8 before the nerf. I find that 90% of people complaining about the nerf are people running Heroic Raid. I got one question to ask them why do u care if they Nerf regular mode, You already clear it so who cares. If you are so Elitism then just turn off the Nerf and clear the content normally.LFR is good for running on off nite not to run with 10 guildies and 15 strangers isn't the same as regular 10 man.
1-19-2012 @ 5:32PM
This!If you're a guild with one 10 man team that's downed relevant content with the same toons since BC, running Raid Finder is not fun.
1-19-2012 @ 6:37PM
"I find that 90% of people complaining about the nerf are people running Heroic Raid. I got one question to ask them why do u care if they Nerf regular mode"Because if you suck we don't want you to be able to finish it.Harsh I know, but that is the reason. Now you can stop being confused why the elitists are so against LFR and raid nerfs.
1-19-2012 @ 7:40PM
@guest42Why? Judging off of past arguments I've had with the elitist mindset, I can tell you that whatever you plan on saying next will be met with another "Why?" So to save time...Take any modification of content. Buffs to player stats, nerfs to boss stats, simplification of mechanics, hotfixes of things that worked wrong but people managed to get around, whatever. When Blizzard enacts those changes, you will retain your position as #824 most-progressed guild and #138 best rogue in the game, or whatever the case may be.The players who were stuck behind you aren't going to leapfrog you and end up at a higher level of progression than you, because you're better skilled. Your gear will be better until the low-skilled players have had Heroic Deathwing on farm for months, because you were getting geared weeks before guild #2385 was. The timestamp on your DW kill achievement will always be earlier than theirs. You will always out-perform them on meter comparison even given the exact same gear because you've had more time to perfect and gain experience with your rotation and fight mechanics.You will have more gold than them because you will have started selling VP items and epic gem drops on the AH before they did and will have stopped buying gems/enchants before they do.What effect of the nerfs diminishes your glory?
1-19-2012 @ 9:15PM
ShadeThe same reason that a thru-hiker on the Applachian Trail would be pissed off to see a guy zoom by on a dirtbike with a trail map in his hand.His own experience is not changed, but the institution itself has been cheapened by the presence of the 'dirtbike hiker'.
1-19-2012 @ 10:25PM
"The same reason that a thru-hiker on the Applachian Trail would be pissed off to see a guy zoom by on a dirtbike with a trail map in his hand."Uh... they wouldn't be?What kind of person taking a hike sees another guy going past and thinks "Hey! That guy's on a bike! Fuck that guy!" ?Is this a thing that happens because it completely confuses me, why would anyone do that?
1-20-2012 @ 3:52AM
@guest42That is ridiculous. I'm a heroic raider and I don't consider myself "elitest" nor do I have anything against these incoming nerfs; for the people they are intended for it will help keep the raiding game from becoming impossibly frustrating - for everyone else ... it makes no difference.For anyone who considers themselves an "elitest" and hates the idea of these nerfs you are way out of the race already - it's over. If you take the buff you'll be on equal footing for any server first competition (if that's your gripe), otherwise it is irrelevant and you can turn it on/off depending on your own whim.
1-20-2012 @ 5:35AM
@guest42You said "The same reason that a thru-hiker on the Applachian Trail would be pissed off to see a guy zoom by on a dirtbike with a trail map in his hand." As a AT section hiker, (some year a full attempt) I've got to share with you some trail wisdom. "Hike your own Hike"You're out there hiking for your own reasons, seting your own pace, your own goals and I'll keep my own. Enjoy your journey and let others enjoy theirs. The same should go for your raiding. Raid your own raid.
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