Breakfast Topic: Spill your 5-man PUG stories here

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1-26-2012 @ 8:28AM

Adnarish said...

Do you have a couple of hours, Allison? :P

I levelled a new character to 85 during the Christmas period, using the Dungeon Finder almost exclusively. The main issues were, funnily enough, very much related to the level ranges. The levels 15-45 are all about 'not waiting for the tank + healer'. It's hard to blame the DPS for this, as the instances in this level range are so ridiculously easy these days that I wouldn't at all be surprised if you could 5-man DPS pretty much all of them. The levels 45-60 have one common theme in that the instances of this range (Scholomance, Zul'Farrak, Stratholme, Blackrock Depths, Blackrock Spire) are all far too large for the Dungeon Finder-era: "skip this boss :)", "plz do ubrs only!!!" and "FFS GO UNDEAD SIDE" will no doubt become part of your daily vocabulary if you take too long to level to Outland. Which is where, in the 60-70 range, AoE is the name of the game. Apparently all classes have (most of) their AoE spells by this time, and this fact, together with the dumbed down difficulty of the BC instances means even the largest pull is too small. The healers, overconfident from the, for them no doubt boring, grind up to this point, are the worst here: "pull more!", "tank can make big pulls plz :)", or "LOL lets beat my rec ramp in 6 min !!11".

Things then normal out over the course of the Wrath instances, and slowly the normal patterns start to emerge: the ever present 'bad player' doesn't interrupt, can't move, doesn't CC, doesn't assist in pulls of caster mobs, is AFK, rolls Need on tanking and healing gear as DPS, is rude to the healer, falls to its death after failing to mount a drake in Grim Barol, and is generally a burden to the rest of the group.

Now, after that (sadly all too true) negativity, I do have to say this: most instances end successfully because of all those generally quiet people who just do their thing, do it well (enough), and get stuff done. To those people I say 'Thank you!'.

1-26-2012 @ 9:03AM

VSUReaper said...

Your welcome! ;)

I'm leveling my pally as holy right now through herbing and LFD only, and its shocking how abusive some of the DPS are and how little patience tanks have.

Zoned into a BRD with an unknown amount of bosses dead, tank did 2 pulls and said screw this, its taking to long. Over an hour later and 6 afk tanks later, I finally manage to herd an entirely new group (new from when I zoned in) past the grim guzzler and to the end of the instance.

When cata hit, I did quite a few instances on my warrior who was in full HM ICC gear. As I slowly replaced my gear, I made sure that my survival was good enough, but maintained around 2-3% hit for the 5 mans. On several occasions, I got mocked for my spec (I had dropped vigilance b/c I was not tanking raids at the time) or mocked for my gear, or the lack thereof....
"You suck! You aren't doing enough threat" "Thats b/c I keep missing - tanks dont stack hit like you"
"You take to much damage! I keep going oom" "Thats b/c you are spamming FOL and not your mana efficient heals."
"I thought tanks weren't supposed to stack hit - your an idiot" "I stack hit b/c the average DPS cant bother to count to 5 before they start in and have to drop some AOE before I can even gather up the non CC mobs.... assuming we CC at all."

I ended up not tanking in randoms for awhile and only did it for friends. I missed the TBC hard heroics, but looking back now, the only reason they were hard in the first place was because they required specific group comps. All instances needed a rogue or mage, or both, some needed paladin tanks only, and some required warlocks. Everything else was just about taking your time and doing it right.

1-26-2012 @ 10:17AM

Chetti said...

I feel your paaaain so much. :)

I am one of the people who sit back and does whatever it is I'm supposed to be doing (DPS at the moment), and hoping it enough to get the group though. And usually, it is.

That being said, I hardly ever (if at all) enter the queue by myself. So it's usually me and at least one other guildie. And while we're quiet in party chat, we're bitching in vent. :D

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