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1-28-2012 @ 8:26AM
sturob said...
Oooh, this is an easy one.
You're in LFR. You've just downed [insert boss here]. You think, sweet, [insert phat lewt here] dropped, maybe I'll get it. A few people quit the raid because [insert stupid loot here] didn't drop . . . WITHOUT ROLLING. So you have to wait for the roll timer to expire. Wow. Annoying.
You're in LFR. You've just downed [insert boss here]. Loot drops, people roll, people win. The pedantic person whose add-on has been announcing stuff to the raid like, "[Priest] activates Divine Hymn!" says, "Oh, look, the bottom heals won the Maw. Doesn't deserve it." Or, "Look, the worst DK got a Gurthalak, l2play, you suck."
Where is the wow.joystiq.com post quoting the blue post that the RNG suddenly became merit based? I'm sorry, but I missed that fundamental change to the game.
Get over it, random loot rolls are random.
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1-28-2012 @ 8:50AM
tenaciousmonkey said...
Both of those things I really hate, and I'm not sure which I hate worse. Most likely the people dropping prior to the roll though, as that seems to happen ALL the time, where the other one I've only seen a few times, and not in every group (even though this is WAY more annoying; I can't stand jerkish people).
1-28-2012 @ 9:58AM
Erebos said...
The second one happened to me on my holy pally alt once... I ended as bottom heals on the meter (after the try before, when we wiped and I was -first-, not that it really matters) and the other paladin who was first gave me a hard time for winning the Maw, which pissed me off, and I ended up leaving before I got my loot (I hate that it doesn't always hand it out automatically!), which ended up making me even madder. Since then I still haven't won it again :(
1-28-2012 @ 10:20AM
Chetti said...
Both really high on the peeve list. Its usually not just one or the other that happens though, its more often then not BOTH coupled together.
I think it is your second point is what really annoys me the most. People who watch the meters, point out such and such person who happens to be last (someone HAS to be the bottom dps, even if its by like 100dps) and saying they don't deserve whatever they happen to win (and SOME even having the gall to think said person should hand it over to someone "more deserving" - ie: higher up the chart). Thing is, if you're in lfr FOR gear, your dps is going to be lower till you get some.
There is one other lfr thing that truely annoys me, and it may even be a bigger peeve than the above two. The kick! Kick! OMG KIIIIICK!! Kick x cause they're bottom dps, Kick y cause they're bottom heals, kick z cause they won somethin that they don't deserve cause they're the worse (of class type) on the list! Now, I can understand if the person is clearly afk (a person who doesn't appear on the recount list, or is a the bottom with like less than 1000 dps) or is a healer that didn't heal at all, sure kick em. But to kick people left and right simply because on whatever fight/pull that person appeared to be at the bottom of the damage/heals.
I was in the first half of lfr a couple days ago, we zoned in and both tanks were afk so we waited. Feasted up, buffed up, then a random dps goes and yanks the trash (very much on purpose, like ran ahead and pulled). The one tank showed up, the pull was survived. Kept goin till get got to the first boss. I had "the puller" targeted for a leap of faith should he even LOOK like he was gonna pull the boss. The afk tank was kicked (the toon was still standing at the zone-in point, so byes!). We get a replacement, kill stuff. All is peachy. But wait! No! Mr. KickHappy starts "x was low dps KICK PLZ!" Followed by "anyone with lower dps than the tank sucks and should leave or they'll be kicked". I'm not sure how many kicks you get per lfr, but dude (or possibly a few people) kept tryin to kick people after every boss/trash pull through the whole thing. Whether they actually came up on the screen to vote on (which I always vote no to the ones that don't deserve to be kicked, and yes to the afk people) or it was just stated CAPSVOICE in raidchat. The funniest/stupidest one (and reason in the little box when it popped up) was "won the tier token, can't play class". Uhm, about that.. they WON the token. If you kick them, they STILL have the token. You don't gain anything by kicking them, except waiting a few mins to replace the person kicked (and probably people who just leave), AND the person who lands back in Org HAS the token they won.
hmm.. lfr has a lot of peeves lol
1-28-2012 @ 12:52PM
SamLowry said...
I proposed on the official boards that anyone who initiates a vote kick against you should be added to a secret /ignore list, so you'll never know who it was but you'll never have to see them again. Many said they liked the idea, but many others--frequent kick-starters, obviously--feared they might soon have a hard time finding a group.
So be it.
1-28-2012 @ 1:21PM
Silversol said...
I try to screw with those people by telling them that the lower DPS person actually deserves it more so they can bring up their DPS. Because it really doesn't matter about the person's DPS or what you say to the person complaining.
A friend and I had this discussion in guild and the result is this:
A person doing less damage in lesser gear is unworthy of an item you may want.
A person doing more damage in better gear should pass because they really don't need it (although they may actually need it).
1-28-2012 @ 1:48PM
NostraThomas said...
@Chetti: Why did you let them go the whole raid acting like that, instead of kicking them early on?
There are only a few times I'll vote to kick: if someone is obviously AFK, if we are wiping repeatedly because someone is ignoring the fight mechanics (and they have had them clearly explained), or if someone is constantly spamming /raid with useless things like "GOGOGOGOGO" or "KICK PLZ" or insults or profanity.
1-28-2012 @ 2:21PM
Katherine said...
Sorry everyone, but if you didn't like their performance you should have booted them before the last boss. What's that? You did, but noone else did? A lot of people don't run meters or any addons at all in raid finder, because a) it's depressing how little some people do, and b) their framerate is already 4fps just from being in a raid with 25 people all using their sparkliest spells at once.
1-28-2012 @ 2:28PM
rpromsat said...
My current LFR pet peeve is raid composition. I, resto-druid, que for raid. Get in. 10 f-ing druids… Not cool. I know druids are the best class and all; and everyone wants to be cool (sarcasm). But a system that creates a raid with 10 druids is not “working as intended”.
1-29-2012 @ 3:24AM
Kyreene said...
Some guildies and I have been doing LFR weekly together in a group and this past week we had a really great run.
But at the very start of the run, we had this mage DPS who was identified as the offical "kick happy funsucker".
When we got to the second boss, this guy started trying to kick people (who weren't in our guild btw) who were low dps but they were showing effort and just trying to get some gear, probably were alt toons for all I know, but the point was, he just wouldn't shut up and kept going on and on with KICK SOANDSO, KICK INSERT_NAME ASAP! etc.
So our guild Main Tank says in our guild's Vent - "Hey guys lets kick this mage..." Everyone agrees and we initate the kick and BEHOLD - JUSTICE PREVAILS! Tons of laughter ensued on vent. LOL!
Funniest thing about all this that mage was #3 on the DPS meters, but we were doing great without him there after he was gone and he got replaced by a rogue who was low on dps but we didn't care and everyone had fun and we one-shotted everything just fine. ;)
1-29-2012 @ 5:14AM
Lipstick said...
I'm on the fence about the whole idea of kicking people for low heals or dps. On one hand, yes I can that LFR can be used as a tool to obtain better gear, and thus better dps/healing output. On the other hand I know perfectly well the gear available via the new five mans, and the dps and hps capable from that level of gear... when I throw that expectation of preparedness on their part .. into the mix, and mix it with the fact that I've been in MORE than my fair share of LFR groups where only 3 of the 6 healers are doing any sort of tangible healing what so ever....
As in, me and 2 other people are doing double, or triple their out put and running on fumes during certain parts of the fight as our mana is so depleted, and they're sitting there with nearly full mana bars, while the raid sits at 50% health or less ...and you're sitting there crossing your fingers one of your mana cd's comes up in the next 30 secs before everyone dies ...
And then one of those people who are barely contributing wins something over you? Yeah .. it does rankle. Random loot is random loot, but the idiot who barely did anything, while you worked your butt off just then .. does bug you. It makes you feel like what is the point in even trying. It's a slow burn of anger and resentment, that makes you start to ask yourself every week, why you even bother running LFR in the first place.
So while I think that being kick happy is bad... I've been in so many runs where I wish I were more inclined to be kick happy .. and where others winning gear which I feel shouldn't rightly belong to them does bug me.
1-29-2012 @ 9:33AM
SamLowry said...
"I try to screw with those people by telling them that the lower DPS person actually deserves it more so they can bring up their DPS."
Since this is a true statement, I'm wondering how it's "screwing with people".