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1-29-2012 @ 8:00PM
Or it could just be that our past victories were retconned out of existence. Again.
1-29-2012 @ 10:37PM
Such as? We've only had two real revamps to dungeons, really, and there wasn't any retcon as to what happened, adventures won, and things progressed to their next logical state.VanCleef was most decidedly killed by adventurers, setting up his daughter.We all saw that Arugal was dead dead dead, he was just logically brought back by those who can bring people back from the dead to go wreak havoc in Northrend, leaving the keep empty and perfect for the jerks to move in. You could maybe suggest that with the new quests in Scarlet Monastery, previous player victories were retconned, but Im sure Joseph will be addressed when that's changed in Mists, making player victories there not 'retconned' or moot. I figure the Alliance got control over Stockades, then put Hogger in there, and with the Cataclasym opening up a hole to let elementals through, that was pretty logical progression as well. All of the original bosses in there being gone, I think that's a pretty clear sign that what the adventurers who went in there before did stuck.
1-29-2012 @ 11:49PM
I think Blayze is referring to Onyxia.
1-30-2012 @ 6:43AM
Onyxia was never retconned, Blizzard has said time and again that killing her in Wrath was completely non-canon and just a bonus instance for the WoW anniversary
1-30-2012 @ 7:27AM
The retcon being "oh, you guys never killed her, Varian did. He killed her so dead we're taking her quest chain out of the game."
1-30-2012 @ 7:29AM
Onyxia was retconned so that King Chin Wrynn was the one to slay her.
1-30-2012 @ 12:02PM
Okay, so a single raid kill from a Vanilla raid was retconned to give a character that badly needed development some development...the original post sounded like this was a chronic issue that happened every time something was changed. Even the Zul's have followed logical progression after the 'group of heroes' went in and foiled their plans. Trolls and voodoo and raising people from the dead sure works well for the lore in there.
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