4 steps for dealing with Raid Finder harassment

The three main types of WoW bullies
In my real life, I work with kids. I've spent the past third of my 24-year life working with kids. As a result, I've been exposed to a lot of bullies, both online and on the playground. There are a few staple things to remember about people who are also bullies, particularly when it comes to the Raid Finder. Here's who you'll find there.
1. The Covering for His Own Inadequacies Bully This is your archetypical bully cliché, but it's grounded in reality. These bullies are horrifically self-conscious, and they're just lashing out at whoever's handy because they're afraid that if they don't, they're going to be the one picked out and picked on. We've all been here; it's called high school (also Congress, but I repeat myself).
These bullies are fairly common in your average Raid Finder run. Just yesterday, I ran a RF with Shelam, my blood death knight. Now, Shelam has an average ilevel of 378 and has tanked all of RF before, but he was called out and almost vote-kicked by three players: another blood DK who was trying to tank while dual-wielding Souldrinkers (a big no-no), his friend and guildmate the last-on-meters fire mage, and an unholy death knight who was fully gemmed for stamina despite being a DPS class. They all called me out for being undergeared, most likely because I was the easiest target in the raid due to my lone remaining blue item, an ilevel 346 helm. Had they not gone after me, it would have been easy for them to have been the recipients of some harsh (if accurate) words, so they chose to go on the attack instead. That let them redirect the blame and their insecurity onto me while feeling empowered because they were making accusations instead of fielding them.
2. The You're a Threat to My Gear Drops Bully Less Psych 101 and more Seminar: People are Jerks. Remember three things: First, that you're raiding in WoW. Second, you're raiding on the internet, essentially playing a game with the proletariat. Third, WoW raids are loot-based. While people might run the Raid Finder once for the lore aspect, the ones who are running it weekly are there for loot.
In the case of the above example, I was competition for all three of those players' Vanquisher token drops and competition for the other death knight's tanking gear. Trying to orchestrate a vote kick in order to lessen the competition for loot drops is a powerful motivator for players, and their main way of doing it is convincing the rest of the raid that you're not worth keeping. It's petty and rude and self-centered ... and you should probably expect it.
3. The Elitist Egotist Bully This is mostly likely the worst kind of bully you'll find in the Raid Finder, mainly because there's not much you can do about them. The group of bullies I've belonged to in the past, these are your heroic mode raiders who deign to grace your RF group with their presence so that they can take their Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest, top meters and then call you all bad for not doing the same. These are the ones who are going to complain every time you get loot, not because they need it but because you don't deserve it.

Now, how to deal with them?
The first thing to do when confronted with a bully is to realize that you're not going to change anyone's attitude. You're not going to make anyone suddenly see the light and realize what they're doing is harmful, mean, and socially unacceptable on anything that isn't the internet. As a result, we're going to talk less about changing them and more about helping you.
1. Don't take it personally. I hate to use such a hackneyed phrase, and I'm well aware of the counterarguments to it. You are being personally attacked and in a way that could cause emotional or mental distress. So why do I say not to take it personally?
I say this because, chances are, you're awesome. I don't know you personally, but I'm going to assume you are -- and you should, too. The fact is that people on the internet don't know you; they have
no idea that you go to work and try to cure cancer, or that you're the coolest mom in the world, or anything else about your life. They don't know you.So when I say don't take it personally, I mean this: People are attacking a virtual character that doesn't even begin to encompass who you are as a person. In that context, what they're doing is incredibly trite, and you shouldn't let it ruin your day. If it's harassing you, report it, and continue to always remember that you're awesome.
2. Don't fight back. By "don't fight back," I don't mean you should take it in silence; I mean don't make a spectacle. Rabble-rousers of any sort are likely to get kicked by the mob mentality of the RF crew, and even someone who is totally in the right will get kicked for supposedly being a dramamonger. So, first off, report the player harassing you.
Second, if particular problems are stated, address them calmly. If you're called out for not stacking on Ultraxion and dying to a full Twilight Instability, explain that you made a mistake and that you won't do it again. While some players (particularly elitists) might continue to hold it against you, being able to show that you recognized you did something wrong and are willing to take steps to change it is a powerful and positive message to send. I've known a large number of raiders in guild groups who couldn't manage that, and the few who can are always well appreciated.
Finally, under the Don't Fight Back heading: Don't resort to name-calling and petty exchanges. They won't help, and they won't prove that you know what you're doing. They'll alienate you from the rest of your group just as well as being singled out will. Prove your maturity and your competence, and the less-vocal majority should be behind you.
3. Know your stuff and play your best. When you enter the Raid Finder, you enter into a contract with 24 other players that you'll do your best and will work to down the content. The best way to avoid any type of harassing or bullying behavior is by holding up your end of that bargain.

Second, follow through and gem and enchant properly. I've known plenty of players who can tell me how they should be gemmed and enchanted but who don't because it's too expensive. That might be the case, but a green-quality, 30-agility gem is always going to beat a blue-quality, 50-stamina gem for an enhancement shaman; there are ways to be thrifty while being good.
Finally, learn the fights before you see them. Icy-veins, Learn to Raid, Fatboss, and our Ready Check column all have guides to the fights you'll be seeing, so take some time to review them before clicking that queue button.
4. If all else fails, leave. At the end of the day, World of Warcraft is a video game that we ultimately play to have fun. If you are not having fun, if other players are doing their best to make sure you're feeling the worst, leave. You owe nothing to anyone else in the group, and it's no mark of shame on your character. If you don't want to be there, if you're not having fun, if you're feeling mentally and emotionally harangued, you owe to yourself to leave. Sure, you might have to rerun a boss in a subsequent run, but killing Morchok twice in one week and having fun doing it is more important than getting through Hagara and having a miserable time in the process.
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Reader Comments (Page 4 of 6)
Aika Jan 30th 2012 6:42PM
And this thing is meant to be a desirable feature in the game? In what sense is it remotely enjoyable?
Xantenise Jan 30th 2012 6:51PM
Most importantly: don't harass anyone yourself! It stuns me the amount of people on WoW Insider who complain about negative attitudes in pugs, and then later admit to doing the same thing.
Naise Jan 30th 2012 7:12PM
The most annoying this I've really found in LFR is not the individuals, it's the guilds that all queue up together and take all the loot. They roll need on everything and pass it out amongst themselves, so you're not rolling against 2-3 people but seven.
Then of course, in their pack they'll have one or two loud mouths that will do all the other things that this article states.
My recommendation, as soon as you load in, look at the group. If you see more than 5 people from the same guild: leave.
SamLowry Jan 30th 2012 11:14PM
This is why I've been arguing that there should be a check-off box asking if we want to enter any instance that includes a large preformed group. I would choose "no" in a heartbeat.
chris Jan 30th 2012 7:42PM
I quite enjoy LFR, I raid with my guild 3 nights a week and LFR gives me a chance to not only have a bit of fun, but it also makes me appreciate my guildies all the more :)
I'm normally pretty relaxed and forgiving of those who aren't as good (not saying I'm better than everyone here) as the bulk of the group. It is frustrating when it's a tank because that can have a big impact on the raid.
I was whispering a tank the other day who kept dying to fight mechanics, after explaining every fight in the run, I suggested (nicely) that before he tries to tank in the future that he reads the journal because it's a great tool. He took the feedback well (most probably because I defended him when the blame stick came out after a fight) and hopefully the next run he'll be more confident for it.
The other type of people I DO dislike is tards who spam meters, and not very well. On my disc priest for example they will spam heal meters and suggest to vote to kick me because my "heals" were low. It is usually one of the other healers who says that I'm Disc lol Ohh and I had one raid that a tard dps was qq'ing about my dps being low until again another healer said, um he's healing dude.
Good times my friends, good times
Upy
Liv Jan 30th 2012 7:54PM
So far, every single bit of abuse I have experienced in LFR, or seen friends experience, has been loot related.
In particular, as an Ele Shammy, I regularly get abused when I win an item with spirit on it. It starts out with someone whispering me demanding the item because anything with spirit on it is a healer item' and when that doesn't work, ends up with them telling me how fail I am etc (apparently anything but #1 dps = fail).
I am normally the sort of person who takes this sort of stuff personally but I am working on not letting it get to me. At least the regularity of it is having a desensitizing effect!
Xaklo Jan 31st 2012 3:52AM
And before anyone even starts with the "if it has spirit on it, it's healer loot" argument. There are NO leather or mail pieces with any +int +hit stats on them. Only spirit or other secondary stats on caster leather/mail pieces. Trinkets are a different story of course, their procs are more clearly defined as healer or dps. Rings are questionable, but usually a non issue with relative ease if access on them.
This is all coming from someone who heals on all 4 healing classes so don't get all up in arms.
rodmin Jan 30th 2012 7:56PM
"Dude, why are you frost?"
"Because i like it. I play this spec not because it's the best, but because i'm familiar with it and i like it. Just like you like topping DPS meters."
Most elitist i've encountered couldn't beat that argument (or just decided to quit the conversation, which works for us too).
Sandstorm Jan 31st 2012 2:00AM
So this! I actually switched to arcane, but before i loved my frost spec!
matthew Jan 30th 2012 8:11PM
So. What's wrong with dual wielding Souldrinkers? Seems highly logical.
Telwar Jan 30th 2012 10:27PM
It's great for Frost Dual Wield.
*Not* great for Blood tanking.
matthew Jan 30th 2012 10:32PM
How come? Wouldn't it only help, since you get even MORE healing?
DragonFireKai Jan 31st 2012 3:01AM
The Blood tree is not built for one handed weapons. None of their strikes have an off hand component, and the talent that gives them that is too deep in frost to take. So you wind up sacrificing almost 30% of your damage just by making that transition.
Further pushing it toward unviability is the fact that one handed weapons have a smaller item budget than a 2H weapon. Going from the 397 Axe from Yor'sahj to two 403 Souldrinkers, you'd lose out on 70 stam, 46 strength, a socket, and over 450 points in tanking secondary stats. All that's on top of the already brutal hit to your damage output.
And the icing on this cake of fail is the fact that Parry Haste is still encoded into the game, so while it's flagged off on all the bosses this expansion, the framework is still there for it to make a return, and if it does you'd be making yourself more likely to get parry gibbed. All it would take is one hotfix.
ravyncat Jan 31st 2012 5:20AM
No.
Absolutely the only DK tree that is built to dual wield is Frost. Blizzard breaks every other attempt--Unholy's version most recently--of using it.
When Frost was a tanking option, I was a dual wield tank but it has not been a good choice for a long time.
DragonFireKai Jan 30th 2012 8:56PM
The third solution is the best way to handle 99% of griefers. Be perfect. If you know the mechanics, know your rotation, and know your role, the overwhelming majority of people won't bother you. Those that do, are tools, and you'll know it and so will everyone else in the group.
hamsammich Jan 30th 2012 9:02PM
It's really a good thing I can't reach through my screen and throttle bullies/elitists, because I definitely would. The Elitist raiders are most certainly people I'd choose to drown in real life if given the opportunity.
If you can't just play, realize it's just a game and get the whole experience over with and prepare for the next, then you need to stop playing and mucking up everybody else's day.
Mork Jan 30th 2012 9:38PM
One other type that really irks me in LFR, and BG's is the quitter. Yeah I know the article is about bullies, but I find this personality type to be even worse.
That one guy in every BG, or every LFR that within seconds of joining just has to go into a diatribe about how they always lose, or how the groups are always fail. Of course it's never them, it's everyone else that's terrible in their minds. I just don't understand it, why oh why must you vocalize this extremely demoralizing attitude when you really have no clue who you are grouped with or their ability?
"Hey lets go kill some dragons!"
"...why bother we're just going to fail anyway"
I don't know why, but I just seethe with disdain at these people. Giving up before you even try, gah! These people in my experience are the same ones that insist on ignoring mechanics with the excuse of 'it's just LFR it doesn't matter'. Sure you can get hit by hour of twilight and survive, that doesn't mean you should. They're also the same ones in BG's screaming at people to stop fighting on roads, while they're fighting on a road.
Basically, in my what, 7 years of wow, I've learned a simple fact. The person who is the most vocal in raid chat or bg chat, is usually the raids weakest link. LFR, BG's, pug raids what have you, stay quiet and focus on your role, is that really too much to ask?
Mork Jan 30th 2012 9:49PM
Quick clarification on what I mean by stay quiet and focus. I don't mean never say anything, but only speak if it's relevant. If you've got a question before a boss pull, or need to call out incoming forces in a BG that's important, do that. By stay quiet I'm primarily suggesting that if it's not important to the success of your encounter, or you just want to make jokes, save it for your guild or friends. If you find you can't go that long without making comments in a raid full of strangers, at least have the common sense to save it for non essential moments, as in when waiting for a raid to fill.
walkerspace Jan 30th 2012 11:30PM
I'm an LFR bully (the first step, right?). I try. I really try to behave myself. I just go in on my priest alt to get the tier pieces I'm missing. I resist looking at damage done in Recount. I tell myself, as long as we kill the boss, it's okay. Then something happens... Whether it's someone not stacking when appropriate, DPS not switching to the adds, the 4 or 5 people that don't use Heroic Will, or worst case: we wipe. I can't keep the monster in after that. I start going through the damage meter and 90% of the time the DPS below the tank is fully PvP geared. RAWR!!! Kick them! Kick the ilvl cheaters! I don't want to lose a loot roll to someone that won't take the time to run the easy and quick HoT dungeons to get at least the quest rewards and a few drops. I become #2. Perhaps I'm a little of #3 as well since my main has Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest and know how to win on normal modes.
When are the group meetings? Is there a 12-step program?
Wil Jan 30th 2012 11:53PM
Then there are those bullies who feed off of each other and harass people as a group. Most commonly found in guild runs -- I encountered such a group not in a raid, but in a Heroic dungeon, Vortex Pinnacle. I was the healer and it was my first Heroic dungeon for that toon. After the tank chain pulled two groups of mobs, I wasn't able to keep up and we wiped. The usual taunts and insults ensued. Then their hunter misdirected a pack of mobs to me while the rest of the group jumped off the edge to regroup at the entrance. I died again and left. After I blacklisted each player in the group, I reported the incident to a GM. I received a reply a few days later stating that some action was taken, though no further details were specified.
I suppose my point is that bullies can often 'work' as a group, whether each individual member may be aware of this or not. They usually have their own cadre of sycophants and cronies who enable their behavior. This pack mentality can often be more harmful and dangerous, because while there may be a 'lead' bully, bullying as a group diffuses the sense of responsibility for their actions, ie. 'no one's responsible because everyone is doing it'.