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1-30-2012 @ 2:28PM
Great article, sorry about the loss of your exceptional raid-leader, but I have to disagree with a lot of your conclusions.I can only speak for my raid and my server, but I think the decline in the number of 25-man guilds is also matched by a similar decline in 10-man guilds. At the start of Cata my server had 3 25-man guilds and 9 10-man guilds (going by my server's progression table). Now we have 0 25-man guilds and 5 10-man guilds- one of them a downsized 25-man. So maybe what we're seeing is not so much a decline in 25-man raiding but a decline in raiding in general, due to LFR and the especially glacial patch rate of 4.x content. I dont' buy a lot of the scaling arguments in the article- a lot of your problems cited in this article may seem more dire numerically, but proportionally are equivalent. For example yes 25-mans require more people to lead, but a larger raid size means that there also should be proportionally more people willing and capable of leading. As Scott says, a ten-man requires one (extremely stressed) officer (let's call it 1.5 for the sake of argument*), and for your 25-man you have 4 officers. 1.5 multiplied by 2.5 the number of players = 3.75, sounds about right to me! You need 27-28 raiders, I need 11, that's ten percent for both of us. And yes, you probably have numerically more turnover and more players to replace each tier, but percentage-wise I bet it's about the same. If anything I'd argue that churn is worse for ten-mans, because statistically the odds of some really random life event taking out a tenth of your raid team is much higher than it would be in a twenty-five man (law of large numbers). I'm glad that Scott didn't propose, as some other commenters have, making 25-man loot better than 10-man again. This really put pressure on my raiders to do 25-mans whenever they could (even if it was just Vault), and proportionally cheapened 10-man raiding because you could overpower the content with 25-man/VP gear.*I say this as the leader of a 10 man raid. I take on most of the responsibility but there's no way I could keep track of everything without spontaneous proactive leadership from other members in the raid
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