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2-01-2012 @ 2:33PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/wow.joystiq.com/media/2012/02/garroshclevermouth.jpgHah I love that bit....and really am I the only women who didn't see an issue with what Garrosh said to Sylvanas in that incident?She actually was being a bitch, and Garrosh had every right to call her out on what she was doing. I agreed with him actually. Just because she's a woman, doesn't mean that she can't be evil...and she is.I never got the controversy, over that one scene.
2-01-2012 @ 3:13PM
Because people are stupid. Garrosh is a head strong brute, yet him calling someone a bitch is a slap in the face to everyone with sensibilities somehow.I imagine people complaining about Garrosh's words would also complain about a racist character in a movie using racist words. It's a character, and it's in their character to be that way.
2-01-2012 @ 3:48PM
I am not a women. I was offended that they used that word. Just like I am offended when anyone uses that word directed towards a woman. Just like I am offended when I hear one of my friends calling their wives or girlfriends that. Sure, you can say it was garrosh being garrosh towards sylvanas. Or you can say it was blizzard choosing a word and saying, "hey man, it's no big deal to drop this in there." regardless of how you feel, I am guessing there are more than a few women who have been called that before. Some shrug it off. Some don't. We can go round and round on this issue all day long. Certain things are probably better left for private. It's a fine line between what is or is not acceptable. To me, it's desensitizing to accept it. To others, it is having a choice or control over what bothers them.
2-01-2012 @ 4:06PM
@noyouI have never seen such a clear textbook case of being over-dramatic as what you've just said. "Sure, you can say it was garrosh being garrosh towards sylvanas. Or you can say it was blizzard choosing a word and saying, "hey man, it's no big deal to drop this in there." "So let's say you're watching a movie set in 1930's Mississippi. One of the characters is a member of the KKK, and he uses a derogatory term when referring to a black man. Do you consider the writer of that movie to be a racist because he chose to let that character say that?
@NoyouHang on here....step back and think about this.Sylvanas was doing something that is clearly evil, and clearly a bad thing to do. She was also being smug about it, directly smug and arrogant to the Warchief of the Horde.I'm sorry but sometimes, just sometimes, a bitch is a bitch. As a woman, I feel, it's actually more insulting, that people would feel the need to soften words around me, or to not call me out on bad behavior. Women can sometimes be evil, heartless, ignorant, and mean....and yes, we deserve to be called a name for it, not given a hug, or a cookie.
2-01-2012 @ 6:03PM
This is a fantasy setting, let me take it a step further- it is a fantasy setting in which teens can play. So yeah, I am offended that a major male character calls a major female character a bitch. I haven't voiced my opinion on it til now. Does that make me over dramatic or overly sensitive? I don't know. That is my feeling on it. Plain and simple. Just because you might be a woman and you might not be offended, doesn't make that any more right. As far as Sylvanas being, "a bad person" so it's okay for her to be degraded. I don't buy into that way of thinking at all. Doesn't mean you are any more or less wrong for feeling that way. I think if you want to show that a character is "bad, crass or tough" there are more verbose ways of going about it. Sure, there is a time and place for use of such language. To me, WoW ain't one of them. Sorry.
2-01-2012 @ 6:22PM
"As far as Sylvanas being, "a bad person" so it's okay for her to be degraded. "What is it only degradation when it's a woman? What if it was a man? Is it ok to call a man a bastard? We can call men out but not women?This is what grinds my gears as a female. The fact that you feel the need to sugar coat words, would make any evil deeds seem less evil. Should Garosh have just said...what could he have said? Patted her on the back? Told her that it was ok? Congratulated her? Held his tongue, because she was a woman?That, to me, it really sexist.
2-01-2012 @ 7:41PM
@Ayane Clearly, he could have said "You evil, evil, undead creature but definitely NOT derogatory term for a female...thing". See? Incredibly masculine and "verbose", right Noyou? Sounds just like something I always pictured someone like Garrosh (or anyone, for that matter) saying when he's irate. The funny thing about Noyou's argument is they've gone on and on about what he shouldn't have said, but have yet to give a single example of what he could have said instead. I've gone over it and over it, and short of making it sound like something you'd hear on a G rated cartoon, I can't really come up with anything. So please, Noyou, enlighten me with your "much more verbose" ways?
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