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2-01-2012 @ 3:20PM
Between the last article and this one I think there is a point I haven't seen brought up.To me there are two classes of offensive language, general and hateful/slurs. General offense language doesn't have any particular direction, ass, damn, the f-word etc. It usually refer to actions and objects of negative value. Hateful words and slurs on the other hand attack a person's race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, etc.I admit I swear frequently and with gusto, but I only use the general words. If I was to say to someone "You're an ass" it's a simple remark about their stubborn or foolish behavior. However if I say "You're a bitch" I am now making a more focused attack, if it was to a woman I am attacking her for being a woman, if it was directed at a man I am comparing him unfavorably to a woman.The second example is what is unacceptable to me, it's degrading to attack a person for who or what they are and that is the kind of behavior that needs to be kept under tight control. People seem to be brushing both kinds of words off with a "Don't let the words have power over you" and I think that those people have never been attacked for what they are. If someone calls me a fucking dumbass cause I pulled a boss before the group was ready and got us wiped yeah that's gonna roll off, but if they come after me for being gay/black/jewish/female that is a different, and far more offensive, matter.
2-01-2012 @ 3:38PM
I cannot up vote this enough and I'm continually astonished by how many people *fail to get your very salient point here* -- namely, the offensive thing is being attacked for *who you are* by someone that thinks *who you are is BAD AND WRONG enough for it to be used as an insult.*
2-01-2012 @ 3:56PM
Y'know, Ian and Matt have it spot on.http://threepanelsoul.com/2012/01/02/on-cussing/"Mild enough to use in public, but ugly enough to get attention. Bloggers can use [it] without being sexist, homophobic, or even ableist."
2-01-2012 @ 4:32PM
Gordal, you have hit the nail squarely on the head.
2-01-2012 @ 6:23PM
That focuses on the meaning that YOU ascribe to the words though. To YOU, "general offense" language isn't that bad. To someone else, it IS "that bad." The words have a different meaning, a different severity to different people. You are attempting to force YOUR opinion on someone else. Whether you are right or wrong isn't the point. It's that you are saying "this is what I think the words mean, so you'd better agree." Saying "you should use this word, it's just fine" is little different from "you can't use this word, I don't like it." It's still one person telling another person what to do.
2-01-2012 @ 6:39PM
Well Skarn, it is my view, which I made clear a couple times throughout. I never forced anything on anyone, just stated how I felt.That said, in regards to wow itself, the words I considered "Ok" are still offense and just cause I fell alright using them and I'm not particularly offended by their casual use doesn't be they are right in any situation. Also they are all on Blizzard's filter list, however many of the words I don't like, particularly LGBT related slurs, are NOT on said list.
2-01-2012 @ 6:57PM
I take the exact opposite view. Insults are insults. The intent is more important than the specific word you use. Saying that "bitch" or "gay" or "retard" is worse than "asshole" is just political bullshit.
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