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2-02-2012 @ 8:06PM
lol @ drinky bird.Also, I completely agree with the sentiment, as someone who almost always tops meters in every 5-man I've ever done, and often by a wide margin, I have to say I've never initiated a vote-kick due to bad dps. I have no problem carrying a group, even if we're in equal gear and I'm dominating everyone on the meters. Even if both DPS are well below the tank, if stuff dies, we move at a decent pace, and we win, that's all that matters. To me, 5-mans are a fun diversion, a way to get some vp or jp rewards, or to gear up a bit at the beginning when you hit level cap.To that end, I have to agree that pointless elitism is very detrimental to the game experience. I really hope that people out there can chill out and understand that it's just a game. Dps often does not matter in 5-mans, and as long as people are at least somewhat competent, not ninja pulling, and not being a racist d-bag, they should be able to get along with everyone and enjoy a nice little 5-man dungeon.
2-02-2012 @ 9:37PM
I think the key difference (for me at least) is that when I'm looking at the meters, I'm comparing myself to...well, me, the last time I ran it. I constantly tweak my gear or (more recently) the priority system as to whether its better to delay chimera for .25 a second to finish an extra aimed shot or to settle for an arcane shot-- a problem that the jury is still out on as I haven't seen conclusive proof, either way.I see the other bars there, sure, but they aren't my concern. As long as stuff is dying without a problem and no one else is pitching a bitch-fit, the numbers are safe with me.Now, when they start trying to dig up drama I can get a bit nasty. Not usually, mind, but today I lost it at a Ret. pally that tried to shame the healer into leaving after the first wipe. It was normal Stonecore, and the first run there (on those toons at least) for everyone that wasn't me. Nobody interrupted, and said pally kept breaking my CC on the Earthshaper. He complained that he had gotten no heals, and I ever so nicely reminded him that A) he was not the tank and B) unlike me, he was capable of healing himself if he could be bothered to do it.He was surprisingly nicer after that, and the run ended pleasantly enough despite some rather slipshod pulling by the guy that was the tank ^^; .
2-03-2012 @ 6:42AM
That's exactly the way to do it Luo.I remember at level 80... this is level 80 now... less than a week after hitting level 80 (this was later in wrath, i started late), I hit something like 17k dps on Loken in Halls of Lightning. Yeah you do the zerg method and he died in about 25 seconds, but still, my eyes popped out when I saw that, and I pretty much never looked back.5-mans are also good to practice outside of a raid. I loathe dummies, and I think dummy practice is stupid, boring, and lame anyway, so I like 5-man dungeons for doing sort of what you described - practicing and honing my dps rotation in a live-fire situation.And your 5-man example from stonecore is a classic mentoring moment. You aren't being the d-bag elitist, you are imparting the wisdom of a skilled player on the group, helping to hold the group together.Mentoring is good.Elitism is bad.Let's hope some people get that message from this post.
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