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2-04-2012 @ 6:28PM
Exception: PvP weapons. Since they're a half-tier higher, their damage is higher, and are actually generally better for a physical DPS class than their PVE equivalent. I wish it wasn't the case, but unless something has changed since I learned this fact, it still is.
2-04-2012 @ 7:27PM
I believe honor weapons are now equivalent in iLvl to drops from the HoT dungeons, which means the HoT weapons are better; but they're perfectly acceptable as substitutes until you get your hands on one of those. Conquest weapons may be better UNLESS you're rocking a drop from DW (even the LFR version), since the procs for DPS weapons off of DW are really good.
2-04-2012 @ 7:28PM
PVP gear is better in a lot more situations that people give it credit for. It's absolutely packed full of primary stats, and given the emphasis that was placed on primaries this expansion, it's almost always worth a look for PVP upgrades. Some will argue with the principle, but it's hard to argue with the numbers.
2-04-2012 @ 11:37PM
There's no case where a PvP weapon will do more damage than a normal mode weapon from raiding. Never mind Deathwing: the Conquest PvP sword is inferior for PvE to Ataraxis or the ESS. Even the Raid Finder Deathwing weapons, despite inferior DPS and stats, are superior due to their procs for PvE.
2-05-2012 @ 4:38AM
@RossiBut what about players who don't raid, either the regular way or LFR?
2-05-2012 @ 7:02AM
The s11 non-elite weapons are ilvl 397. That's higher than anything you can get from HOT, and so if for some reason you can't raid LFR or Normal DS, or just can't get any luck with weapon drops, it would be worth your while to upgrade your 378 to one of those, wouldn't it?Don't forget: even though raiding is so accessible now, still not everyone is a raider. Some people have time constraints, bad computers (LFR is ridiculously demanding on mine) or just plain don't enjoy 25s.
2-07-2012 @ 11:14AM
While the increase in min-max damage is huge, the loss of the secondary stats is just as big. I'd rather have the 2% crit or what have you on the weapon (exception being the proc off the DW Sword) than the possibility of doing 20 more damage per swing and 200+ wasted stat points (at least till I get bored and want to go kill a mage).
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