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2-13-2012 @ 11:03AM
Flying around Dalaran this weekend looking for Alliance to shower with Petals, I remembered the existence of Archmage Landalock and his weekly raid quests. I wonder, why did Blizzard not include a Cata version of him late in this expansion? It would have been a nice incentive for players to go back and do BWD/BoT/T4W/FL pugs this patch.
2-13-2012 @ 11:27AM
I agree wholeheartedly. Not only because the weekly raid quests were a fun diversion from the norm, but also because my guild got started raiding a bit late this expansion. We're now working on both Firelands and Dragon Soul regular, and also doing LFR Dragon Soul; but no one except me seems interested in going back to do the first three T11 raids. A weekly quest might at least get us in the door.
2-13-2012 @ 12:00PM
I imagine it's because raiding has been less accessible up til the introduction of LFR. In Wrath you could PuG the first few bosses in most any raid; in Cataclysm, not even most guilds have been so lucky.Of course, with the new Valor point allocations, perhaps the weekly quest (at least that style) is no longer relevant. I do rather miss the ICC weekly quests, featuring some fun bonus mode in the instance. We always looked forward to those.
2-13-2012 @ 12:05PM
The best answer I can come up with for any number of these questions is that whoever made game implementation decisions in wrath is not making them in cataclysm. I've heard it said that there are 2 teams for wow; one will be working on building an expansion while the other will be coding for the current expansion. Each team is responsible for it's own xpac, so that the team that builds the expansion then works on it for the next 2 years. So for example, the BC team is the same team that made cataclsym, and the Wrath team is currently working on MoP.Because there are a whole list of things that blizzard did very right in wrath, that they messed up on in cataclysm. Epic gems and raid quests are two of the more outstanding things from wrath that were not implemented for cataclysm, especially considering that so many people thought raid quests would become the norm.
2-13-2012 @ 12:41PM
What would a weekly raid quest even reward? In Wrath there was no cap on Frost Badges, so the weekly was always worth doing (unless it was Malygos). With LFR the VP cap is easier to reach than its ever been, so the incentive would probably need to be something else, especially if its going to involve subjecting themselves to trash-lands again.
2-13-2012 @ 2:05PM
I used to feel bad for Archmage Timear, who with 3.3 and the removal of the Archmage Timear Foresees dailies merely became the guy who said "hey, go see Landalock." I went through Dal last week on a pally I was leveling and went to see what the weekly was for old times sake (it was XT) and felt bad for poor Landalock.I half expected when he turned up as an assistant for you during the Protectors of Hyjal quest to say "oh hey, when you're done here, think you could come back to Dalaran? You won't believe the backlog of work for the Council of Six there is these days!"
2-13-2012 @ 2:18PM
Something else I just remembered, right after I posted this:Never mind the weekly raid quest, whatever happened to the rotating weekly quests inside ICC?While I can see the weekly raid being set aside at the launch of Cata, since the purpose of the weekly raid quest was largely to make sure you kept running old content, why did the model of offering a quest of some sort inside the raids die? It could have offered gold and the same random bag of loot the ICC ones did, with a chance for one of the 359 BOEs in it. Why did that go away? There are chances for these quests in BoT, BWD, and FL with just slight modifications to the existing trash. The Atramedes trash, the drakes on the lower level of BWD, the trash gauntlet before Val and Ther, Kar just in front of Rhyolith, all of these could have been reworked into quests like the ones in ICC. Yet they didn't do it. It did seem like raid questing would become more common and it just vanished in 4.0. Very odd.
2-13-2012 @ 2:46PM
"So for example, the BC team is the same team that made cataclsym..."That explains a lot.
2-13-2012 @ 4:27PM
Hell, that explains everything.
2-13-2012 @ 8:58PM
By the way, feel better Mat :) And grats on your Love bird.
2-13-2012 @ 8:32PM
"and the Wrath team is currently working on MoP."If thats the case, im that much more excited for MoP.
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