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2-13-2012 @ 1:18PM
Regarding prot tanking, I have a little problem with my pally alt. He is in all tanking gear, and has a block rating of about 46% (Item lvl is 363 right now, I think). I gemmed and reforged for mastery a lot, going by recommendations by askmrrobot.I use the recommended priority system, seal, blessing etc.However, my problem is: I don't do a lot of damage, which of course is a certain factor for holding threat too. I haven't played him in a while, but from guild heroics and some FL trash, I remember doing 5-6K damage... I went to the training dummy today to test this morning, and my max was about 5-6 K indeed. I don't understand this, because I have seen so many pallies do way more dmg than that, and an equally geared blood DK back then did more than twice as much dmg. Is this normal? Should a pally at this ilvl, with tank gear and a focus on mastery, do only 5-6KWhere could I start to find out what is wrong?Thanks so much!
2-13-2012 @ 1:26PM
Most of the time you see paladin tanks doing a lot more damage its because we're boosting our numbers on trash with the AoE tanking skills. Our single target boss dps is usually pretty darn low, but it averages out higher over the course of the run because of how many multiple mob trash pulls we get.
2-13-2012 @ 1:43PM
Mr. Robot's recommendations are usually "group raid progression" based. Meaning that's how you should gem/respec if you are looking to be the best in current raid content. For tanks this typically means avoiding any sort of threat boost because your raid is (probably) smart enough to not pull threat in the first few seconds.If you are pugging 5-mans as a tank, you will probably want more threat stats like hit and expertise in order to keep aggro. All that mastery isn't going to help you if you can't keep ahold of the mobs. I don't have a high level pally, so I'm not sure what balance you should be looking for, but it definitely sounds like you need some more hit if you want to pug.
2-13-2012 @ 1:54PM
Vengeance would be the key. If you're whacking a dummy or offtanking a couple of mobs then your attack power isn't going to be remotely as high. Your damage really doesn't have to be too impressive these days anyway, since tanks' threat levels were massively boosted (500% now, I believe).
2-13-2012 @ 5:37PM
Toss out 2-3 hammer of wrath's with a full stack of vengeance and you're dps will get quite a nice boost at the end of an encounter (also something that you would never get to use on a training dummy).I don't pally tank, but does the recommended rotation include hammer of wrath? Gotta use that badboy if you're looking to boost your dps as a paladin. Always major fun to toss out one of those as ret (and annoying as everything on my mage when I escape melee from a ret and they finish me off with one of those from range).
2-13-2012 @ 9:21PM
@pyroHammer of Wrath is a finisher. I think ret paladin's can talent it to be used more often. (with Avenging Wrath) Unless I'm on a boss, the mob usually gets dead before I can fire it off. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=24275
2-14-2012 @ 2:23AM
Thanks so much for the replies! I guess Ill just try to queue and see what happens! =)
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