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2-14-2012 @ 12:27PM
Im sorry but #5 is just not valid for LFR. This pattern of rolling need on everything you can and looking to trade later is now the norm not just for Resto shammy's but everyone. If you dont do it you are willfully hurting your ability to get the gear you actually need.
2-14-2012 @ 12:37PM
I wonder how fast this (and this!) will be gray... Is it a dick move? Yes. Will almost everyone else in your lfr be doing it? Yes. Will doing it increase your chances of getting gear you need? Yes. /shrug
Sad but true, just because you don't like "that game" everyone is playing doesn't mean you can get away with not playing it when you want the reward everyone else is going for.
2-14-2012 @ 12:51PM
I don't view it as "willfully hurting (my) ability to get the gear (I) need". I view it as doing the right thing. The behavior of others doesn't change my sense of right and wrong. If you are uncomfortably engaging in this tactic just refrain from it. There are plenty of us who support that decision. Don't compromise yourself over the idea that "everyone" does it.
2-14-2012 @ 2:19PM
@eladornaThat pretty much sums it up. It also seals the fate of LFR as a place that honest people do not get gear upgrades. After 6 full clears rolling the way I feel is honest, not a single piece of loot. For better or for worse, LFR is a loot factory, It's more fun to raid with friends/guild so there is no reason to be there except to chase a gear upgrade, something that folks like you and I will likely never get.
2-14-2012 @ 3:30PM
I agree. I don't give a lick if "everyone" is doing it. It's a dick move, and I try real hard not to be a dick. "Everyone" brings friends to LFR and rolls on loot for them. "Everyone" AFKs at the tunnel in AV. "Everyone" rolls on anything they can. "Everyone" clicks Need to DE. LFR is not a FFA, but the way some folks act it sure seems like it. I thought a party was supposed to work together like a team, not actively try to screw each other for their own personal benefit
2-14-2012 @ 6:31PM
this is the number one reason people who have never been reported for being a dick should get thier own server. and if you happen to become a dick once reports you are kicked off it. why can we just all play nice togather
2-15-2012 @ 1:18AM
Down rating the post won't change the truth of the matter: rolling need on everything you can has become the new norm. Your principles are not going to stop it rom happening, and if you are among those who won't roll that way, you are rapidly becoming the minority. So long as the current loot distribution model is maintained, these need rolls will continue. Doing it differently is going to become the "way it's done in guild runs"' and is going to be seen as quaint and, ultimately, pointless. No one's asking you to like that. But downvoting is just sticking your head in the sand.
2-15-2012 @ 2:12AM
"rolling need on everything you can has become the new norm. Your principles are not going to stop it rom happening, and if you are among those who won't roll that way, you are rapidly becoming the minority. So long as the current loot distribution model is maintained, these need rolls will continue. Doing it differently is going to become the "way it's done in guild runs"' and is going to be seen as quaint and, ultimately, pointless. "Sure, it won't stop it from happening, but downvoting the post indicates that not "everyone" loot whores their way through LFR and not everyone thinks the sentiment is a good one. So what if I'm in the minority that don't roll on gear I already have? I don't see that as a bad thing, principles are principles for a reason.I dont' roll on things I don't need, and I don't roll on things I already have. It didn't quite get through ot another priest who wanted to know who I was going to swap the Maw with off DW if I won it. Pointing out I already had the item and so I wouldn't be rolling didn't make sense to that player. They assumed I meant I had already set up a prior arramngement with someone else. I simply didn't roll. What need to I have to roll on an item I already have equipped? Just because "everyone else does"? That's childish and immature thinking.Rolling need on everything and then trading isn't necessary to gear up. I've managed to acquire all 5 lock tier tokens without having to be a loot whore in LFR, along with several other slots. Without rolling against my personal principles. Trying justify it as the "only way I'll ever get loot" is rubbish - once you have the item, rolling on it again is just being a jerk imo.
2-15-2012 @ 7:56AM
@GlarasI think you misunderstand the purpose of down-voting - it is simply to show whether you like/dislike. People who dislike the post are well aware of the situation and they don't like it.
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