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2-17-2012 @ 12:06PM
The debate reminds me a lot of the following - "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?" George Carlin
2-17-2012 @ 1:06PM
Good point. To me, "hardcore" is when I'm asked to put in hours that could do harm to my real world priorities (i.e. if a guild says I have to lose a lot of sleep or get kicked when I have work tomorrow, or if I need to give out my phone number so officers can find me IRL, it's too much), BUT the guild is able to progress to a very high level when compared globally (even I've done server firsts, but it wasn't on a high ranked server).Casual just means you play. Doesn't matter if it's 1 or 24 hours a day, you're just playing. You don't have to be any good to be casual.Hardcore casual is when you don't eat, sleep, and breathe for a raid, but you still do well (similar to what Ms. Stickney is discussing). It may have been different in the old days of raiding, but the PvE in games these days has gotten very easy and people STILL stand in the fire. If you've got brains to move, do some research on your class, and use your fingers instead of your face to play, you can probably pull off hardcore casual ;P
2-17-2012 @ 3:16PM
@Den - My problem with that line of thinking is that you're still applying the labels based on skillset. You can do research on your class, know what buttons to push, etc. And still have no desire to raid. Alternatively, you can eat, sleep, and breathe raiding, and still have no idea how to properly play your class. (A few former guildmates of mine can probably attest to this.)Personally, I would imagine the spectrum to be based on the amount of time you're willing to devote to the game. If you were the guy who called in sick to make server first level 85, or whatever, I would call you "hardcore," even if you'd never set foot in a raid. "Hardcore" and "casual" don't just apply to raiding, but overall playstyle.
2-18-2012 @ 5:04AM
This describes both my driving abilities and my WoW career.Of course, regarding driving I have one philosophy: Speed limits are meant to be obeyed. IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. If I can keep driving at exactly 70MPH, then everyone going faster or slower than I am is clearly in the wrong.
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