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2-18-2012 @ 4:13PM
That is incorrect. The correct answer is...High. Botanist. Freywinn.http://www.wowhead.com/npc=17975From The Botanicaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
2-18-2012 @ 4:42PM
While Freywinn appears to be a druid, the degenerative nature of the instance hints that the blood elves in Botanica are not utilizing druidic practices, but corrupting the plants by other means, such as the ancient Warp Splinter who has apparently been corrupted by arcane magic. He could be a fake/false druid trying to "act" like a druid but without real success.
2-18-2012 @ 4:50PM
That was ONE boss. A single Blood Elf. And he was a botanist, not technically a druid. While he has a tree form, it's likely the result of all the experiments he's performing on the plant life, not a gift from Cenarius like true druids and their forms.That's not to say Blizzard couldn't go back and expound upon it as an excuse for SUDDENLY, DRUIDS, but it's unlikely.
2-18-2012 @ 5:09PM
I hope you don't have any titles on your Druids, because that apparently makes you stop being a Druid.Crusader ILuvFerrets - You must be a professional jouster! Your Druidic abilities must stem from your love of long, slender objects!Starcaller ILuvFerrets - You must have long-distance phone calls with celestial objects! Your Druidic abilities must come from the Light of the Moon!Chef ILuvFerrets - You must forsake your Druid abilities to vie on Iron Chef! Your abilities must be a side effect of all your exotic dishes!Salty ILuvFerrets - You must stop being a seal and sail the seven seas! Your ability to swim as an animal must come from contact with the mythical creatures of the ocean!Brewmaster ILuvFerrets - You must stop shifting and start chugging! Your...hic! abilities musht come from...hic! all thatsh shtuff you drink...hic!Etc. Etc.
2-18-2012 @ 5:22PM
Cel:While LADY LIADRIN appears to be a PALADIN, the degenerative nature of the SITUATION hints that the blood elves in SILVERMOON are not utilizing HOLY practices, but corrupting the LIGHT by other means, such as the NAARU M'URU who has apparently been corrupted by magic. SHE could be a fake/false PALADIN trying to "act" like a PALADIN but without real success.Who says Cenarius can't act in mysterious ways? Perhaps Freywinn was the only BE with the inclination to get closer to nature? Maybe he used Arcane magic to amplify his connection and Cenarius reacted to it and blessed him with his abilities? It's possible he was a test subject; the first of many. Cenarius didn't just wave his hand and make all NE's Druids in the beginning - he came across Mal in secret and trained him and his friends first.
2-18-2012 @ 5:30PM
Dlskye, the main focus behind The Botanica was genetic experimentation and manipulation of nature's manifestations. The entire point was that the Blood Elves' activities were most definitely *not* "Nature-friendly."If anything, the High Botanist was presented as an abomination of what it means to act like a druid. Not something Cenarius or any true druids would have any respect for.
2-18-2012 @ 5:48PM
Spritetoggle:So you say. Yet there are no quests or quotes or lead-ins from any Druidic forces in-game to go destroy him.Archdruid of the Flame Staghelm: Often said that he is such an abomination, must be destroyed, etc, etc.Druids of the Fang: "The Druids in the Wailing Caverns, the Druids of the Fang, are an aberration," go kill 'em all, etc.Lord Melenas: A satyr that can still transform into his Druidic cat form. Bad guy, poke it with a sharp stick, etc.Instead, the only "reason" to go kill him is because A'dal said so. Kill them all, let the Light sort them out. Who cares if he was just after information, who cares if he just wanted to get closer to nature but was kept under the thumb of Kael'Thas and had to do what he had to do to survive...Who's to say he hasn't done the best he could in his situation? Maybe Warp Splinter and the other specimens were trapped there, true, but by the military forces? Freywinn had to weaponize some of the smaller ones, yes, but he kept Warp Splinter in the back. Almost as if he had placed him in the safest part of Botanica...while he worked on a formula to cure him of his confusion...
2-18-2012 @ 5:56PM
"Given that shaky history with the night elves, it is highly unlikely that any night elf druid of any kind would teach a blood elf how to be a druid. And given the blood elves' affinity for arcane magic, it's also highly unlikely that any of them would have any interest in druidic magic. Is it impossible? As it stands right now in lore, yes -- but that doesn't mean that Blizzard can't change the lore as it pleases."I'd argue that based on the synopsis of the lore you've provided, Anne, it would have been equally or even more unlikely for night elves to be mages. So I don't think it'd be overly difficult to justify blood elf druids at this point, though based on the history I find both race/class combos to be completely silly.
2-18-2012 @ 5:57PM
Considering the nature (no pun intended) of the every other Blood Elf "researcher"-style mob in the Botanica, I just can't comfortably settle on Freywinn being anything more than a higher-tiered manipulator. It doesn't appear to fit with what the dungeon design is implying: That the Blood Elf takeover of Tempest Keep is seeking to exploit anything and everything available within the fortress.Freywinn is thus a perfect example of the "look what I can do if I experiment far enough"-attitude that the Sunfury Blood Elves were portrayed as having throughout most of the Burning Crusade expansion.
2-18-2012 @ 6:13PM
Sir Zelek in Naxx. An exception to the rule does not make the rule false.
2-18-2012 @ 7:32PM
The High Botanist is an exception, true, but also not exactly valid for arguing that they *should* make that class more available. The other thing is that, according to Warcraft II lore that has not yet been retconned as far as I'm aware, the Runestones are the creations of elven druids. Given that night elves haven't been in Quel'thalas essentially ever, we'd have to assume that at least a few Highborne druids were banished with their kin. Just because they knew druidic arts doesn't mean they might not have sympathized with mages and/or studied the arcane themselves. And where did those Gilneans learn their "hedge magic"? The ancient queldorei might have been their teachers.
2-18-2012 @ 9:56PM
@puffcakeNight Elf mages do make sense, because there have always been Highborne remnants left in Kalimdor. You kill a bunch of bad ones in Dire Maul to gain reputation with the good ones. What was left of them decided they had better things to do than sit around a ruined city after they figured out that the Cataclysm was coming, so they went and talked with Tyrande and Malfurion. Tyrande said no, Malfurion said yes, and since Tyrande is an awfully written female leader she just let Malfurion do whatever he wanted. Not everybody was happy about it either (see: Maiev).
2-19-2012 @ 10:17AM
Blood elf hunters - Farstriders - have druidic abilities in lore, such as speak with plants. So I wouldn't say druidic arts are entirely extinguished in the high elf/blood elf society, just taken a new form and obviously the druidism is different from what we think it is, and they probably can't shapeshift anymore if they ever could. The whole starting zone has hints towards some druidic ability among the high/blood elves, first hint is the feral tenders that just so happen to look like treants. Some of the earliest quests say that the elves used to live in "relative harmony with the woodland creatures" but "the times have changed" with the burning crystals and scourge driving the wilderness mad. The same quest givers also say it gives them no pleasure to do what has to be done to their former allies and even friends like Old Whitebark.
2-19-2012 @ 11:23AM
From a roleplay standpoint, any individual of any race could conceivably become any class with a well-explained backstory or circumstances. However, the classes we can play in WoW are the most common classes available to that race, the ones that don't need an in-depth explanation to justify.
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