Two Bosses Enter: Queen Azshara vs. Hagara Stormbinder

Archbishop Benedictus, just get out. Leave. I just checked the votes, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Murozond, the corrupted and tainted aspect of time and leader of the Infinite Dragonflight, utterly stomped Benedictus by over 2,100 votes. Was it because Benedictus was so unpopular or because of an emerging crowd favorite in Murozond? Only time will tell.
This week's matchup features the final raid boss of this season, Hagara Stormbinder, going head-to-head against the Well of Eternity's Queen Azshara. This matchup seems like it will prove to be very interesting, as each encounters' mechanics are so robust and varied. Hagara's environmental attacks and movement will be a big factor when paired against Azshara's adds and puppermaster abilities. The ultimate decision, however, is up to you.
Who wins this week's battle on Two Bosses Enter?
| Queen Azshara (Well of Eternity) | |
|---|---|
| Hagara Stormbinder (Dragon Soul) |
The rules of the ring
- The WoW Insider Ring is considered neutral territory, where both combatants are able to access their usual encounter mechanics and abilities. If you can't visualize it inside the squared circle, visualize it someplace else -- but you must take into consideration all of each bosses' abilities and mechanics.
- Assume that each opponent is intelligent and capable of strategic thinking.
- All of the competitors' abilities, including crowd control and other effects to which bosses are usually immune, work on their opponents (with apologies to considerations of lore on this point).
- Assume that the opponents share similar levels, health pools, and comparative overall damage output.
- Don't get caught up in gameplay mechanics and what actual players might do in each encounter.
- Don't neglect style, story, and scale. Everything is a factor; seeking balance is your goal as a spectator and judge.

They called her the light of lights, the most beautiful being in the universe. The loyal subjects of Queen Azshara of the Highborne would follow her grace and beauty to the ends of space. In fact, the edges of space came to her. Drawn to the power of the Well of Eternity, Sargeras manipulated Azshara into heralding Sargeras' return from his prison.
Queen Azshara is one of those lore figures who is so popular and so loved in the story that it's hard to put her anywhere. Killing her means getting rid of one of the best characters in Warcraft who still hasn't gotten enough characterization and time. She is the ultimate Azerothian demigod, rising to power and prominence and then tragically sinking into the depths, only to emerge as something else.
This is not that time, however, and ripped from the past for this fight alone are Queen Azshara and her court, ready and waiting to do battle against all comers. Azshara is an add-heavy encounter, but remember that all powers and other concerns are relative, so don't bother with too much of the little stuff. Have fun with it.
Queen Azshara's abilities include:
- Servant of the Queen Azshara charms an opponent, forcing them to become a puppet and do Azshara's bidding. Destroying the puppet hand ends the effect.
- Total Obedience Queen Azshara attempts to charm all opponents and turn them into puppets.
- Frost Magus Uses frost abilities like Ice Fling, Coldflame, and Blades of Ice to damage opponents of the queen.
- Fire Magus A fire mage specializing in Fireballs, Firebombs, and Blast Waves.
- Arcane Magus This student of the arcane uses Arcane Shocks and Arcane Bombs to debuff and damage opponents.

I find Hagara Stormbinder interesting not only because the encounter is very fun, frantic, and just a good old time, but because she is proof that the story is moving forward in a very particular way. We knew that the brand new Cataclysm race/class combinations were part of the various Alliance and Horde races' cross-contaminating each other's worlds with practices, customs, and specializations. Hagara Stormbinder is one of the first students to study arcane magic under the Forsaken as part of the alliance between the undead of the Undercity and the orcs.
While Hagara was a gifted student, she was also arrogant, like most orcs throughout Azeroth's orcish era. This arrogance led to attempts to control fierce and unruly elementals. In her efforts, she was taken and corrupted by Al'akir and placed into Deathwing's service. Now, Hagara waits to ambush all who attempt to enter the Eye of Eternity and commune with the Focusing Iris, a magical artifact of the late Malygos the Spellweaver himself.
Hagara's abilities include:
- Ice Lance Hagara fires ice crystals towards random opponents, including damage to the first opponent in the way, and reduces attack speed.
- Ice Tomb Hagara traps opponents in blocks of ice until they are removed by breaking open the icy prison.
- Focused Assault Hagara goes into a frenzy, frantically swinging her weapons in front of her.
- Shattered Ice Deals damage and slows an opponent.
- Frozen Tempest Hagara becomes invulnerable until four crystals are destroyed. Four ice walls move around Hagara's water bubble. Entering the bubble causes damage and touching the ice walls causes mega damage.
- Lightning Storm Hagara becomes invulnerable and cannot be harmed until all four lightning totems are overloaded. Hagara will summon an add that, after being killed near a totem, will arc out lighting to disable the other totems, which has to jump from one close player to another.

Last Week's Winner: Murozond
Murozond laid waste to his opponent Archbishop Benedictus in what has to be the most embarassing loss of the entire tournament so far. Wow, that was awful. Benedictus was like that guy you know who is in a band and they totally have got a gig this Saturday night at a place you don't know, and a bunch of people are going and so, like, you totally have to come. And then you get there and the band sucks, no one else showed up, and now you're out a $20 cover and a three-drink minimum. Don't get me started on Krystal, the girl who just puked on your shoes. Archbishop Benedictus, you are that guy, and it's sad to see such a revered figure fall so hard.
Vincentmagius said what we were all thinking:
I'm going to go Benedictus. He's shown he can switch between Holy to Shadow easily enough. He could dps with the full force of Shadow and keep himself topped up with Holy. When (if) he runs out of mana, hit the Hourglass.Believe me, Vincent, there is never too much reading into this stuff, especially for the very purpose of this column. Reader GhostWhoWalks put down the facts, plain and simple, for you to follow along with:
I could be reading too much into his abilities.
Murozond takes this fight with ease. Between Temporal Blast, Infinite Breath, Distortion Bombs and the good old Tail Swipe, he unloads a crap-ton of damage onto any opponent. Benedictus...does not. Even with the benefit of some resets, there's no way Benedictus could deal enough damage in between hourglass uses to beat the big guy.Murozond's kit is pretty powerful, especially in light of Benedictus' relative motionless encounter and the hecticness and fun of dodging ice walls. Nonetheless, Benedictus just isn't going to break the public's view of him as kind of a tool in the face of greater beings, demigods, and destroyer dragons.
Plus, Assault on New Avalon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysU94a6pnK4 plays during the fight, so Murozond has the power of epic theme music backing him up.
Finally, I leave you with punchinthefacedance's application of a little logic and a whole lot of fun that makes time travel worthless.
Murozond has been buggering arround with the timeline trying to manipulate events so that their chain of cause and event lead to the moment of his creation, the hour of twilight or..rather it aftermath. Everything he has done has seemingly been to ensure he exists (whether its because he genuinly believes that his existance is better for azeroth than the alternative or simply out of a selfish desire or fear), to put it simply, he want to live.
Benedictus is a tool which the old gods have been using in their attempt to escape, in their attempt to bring about the hour of twilight which will lead to nozdormus desent into becoming Murozond, Murozond can surely see this. He could use this tool to nudge the timeline into taking the direction he wants, why destroy it when he can convince it that its in both their interests to work together.
The usual rules of the ring cant apply here since the bronze flight have keept the combatants in line but Murozond is still the most powerful of all the timey-wimey-wibbly-wobbly flights so hes just going to shrug off any attempts at stopping him from planting Benedictus right back where he needs him, unlesss that attempt is made by himself, as we know from the usual Murozond encounter this isnt going to happen as Nozdormu cannot, or cannot bring himself to fight and potentially kill Murozond.
Murozond will give Benedictus a small scale hourglass so that he can be given a second chance to succede when Thrall and a band of Azeroth's heroes inevitably cross him. THIS is why the trash leading to Benedictus has a nasty habbit of resetting, Benedictus is on hourglass duty and when his group starts to wipe he uses his hourglass in the hopes that this time his enemies will wipe. It could also be why we have all been able to kill him, and many other bosses so many times..
Its also why no matter how many times we fight Benedictus his tactics will never change, bar any brainfarts that make him forget to use the hourglass during trash, Benedictus is with the twilights hammer and if you work with those guys you either are, or are going to end up being, completely insane and well.."to repeat the same action and expect different results is madness"
So..my opinion, which must be dammed close since there is all that in game evidance, is that nothing notable happens since timetravel.
| Murozond (End Time) | |
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| Archbishop Benedictus (Hour of Twilight) |
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Duroas Feb 20th 2012 4:20PM
I don't see any interrupts in Hagara's arsenal, and givin her past history of being controlled, Id say this fight's going to end as soon as Azshara decides to try mass mind control. Those adds are going to get utterly wasted by the frozen tempest, though, they don't seem all that bright.
Rust Feb 21st 2012 10:20AM
Hagara doesn't need interrupts. In fact, Hagara on non-LFR would stomp Azshara via Ice Tomb. Even on LFR (which I assume is the version we're using, despite Ice Tomb being mentioned as an ability), Hagara can immune Total Obedience via either one of her phases.
It's really an easy win for Hagara if she Lightning Phases right off the bat. 2 Magi cannot chain the lightning, and so they lose. The end.
malaika Feb 20th 2012 4:22PM
Queen Azshara 's Total Obedience = IWIN Button
capt.queso Feb 21st 2012 10:43AM
Until Hagara instant cast counters with a phase change.
orkmjolhus Feb 20th 2012 4:36PM
I belive that Hagara would win, provided that only 2 of Azsharas servants are fighting at any given time Hagara will simply freze the first one and have an easy picking on the other, Azsharas puppet control can also work differently on Hagara, like simply slowing her on movement speed and attack speed, it works the normal way vs Hagaras adds though, also Hagara can use Ice lance to free herself and good dmg to.
I do however find something interesting on both of Hagaras phases, lets take the lightning phase first, Azshara mindcontrols the elemental thus instanly breaking Hagaras shield and stuning her, but this means that the elemental dosent die, so when the second phase comes up, Hagara will in realaty be in Both the lightning phase and ice phase, and i dont care if Azshara can mindcontrol of of them at once, she will still lose at least 2 servants before she gets the cast off.
Other then that Hagara simply has a beter tool kit to counter Azshara.
Kelly Feb 20th 2012 4:51PM
The rules of Two Bosses Enter states: All abilities can be used. HOWEVER.... It doesn't state that they have to use the abilities in the same manner that we see.
Because of that, whoever gets off one of their "big abilities" first will win. If Azshara starts Total Obedience before Hagara starts the ice phase (sorry, the lightning phase is easy to deal with while the ice phase kills people all the time), Azshara wins. If Hagara gets the jump, she wins....
Of the two, I think Azshara will win, becuase Hagara is dumb enough to think that she can win with her other abilities, while Azshara just wants to kill her enemies and move on with her life.
Jestin Feb 20th 2012 4:49PM
What about http://www.wowhead.com/spell=102915?
Tri Feb 21st 2012 6:55AM
Haha yeah seems like an unfair fight ;)
Edymnion Feb 20th 2012 4:51PM
Ah, the trick here is that Total Obedience has a pretty long windup, and that Hagara is totally immune to everything whenever she's using Frozen Tempest or Lightning Storm. She doesn't have to have an interrupt to win here, she just has to summon an ice wall whenever Azshara starts channeling. Given how hard it is to get even a coordinated pug to run in the right directions, I doubt Azshara could get all of her mages targeting the same ice crystal fast enough to keep the ice wall from slamming right into her. Especially no if she tosses out the ice lances first so that they're all barely moving first.
Even if they do manage to run the mechanics correctly, it will take them longer to do it than it takes Azshara to finish casting her spell, which Hagara will be immune to while its up.
All in all, Azshara can't put out the DPS to down Hagara, and her big 1HKO is useless. Hagara would grind her and her minions into the ground.
monotype Feb 20th 2012 4:53PM
Azshara won't even need to break out Total Obedience -- one Servant of the Queen, and the fight's over. Hagara's ice crystals don't count as MC breakers, they'd come under Azshara's control right alongside Hagara.
Sarah Bee Feb 20th 2012 4:58PM
You can so tell that Magatha Grimtotem was originally going to be in Dragon Soul instead of Hagara.
GhostWhoWalks Feb 20th 2012 6:42PM
Makes a whole lot of sense, now that you mention it. Hagara's lieutenant is a Grimtotem Tauren, she's a shaman (not a mage, as the Dungeon Journal describes her), and her quotes depict her as being an older individual yelling at those idiot kids to get off of her lawn. I really have no idea why they put some random orc lady in instead of Magatha, though maybe they decided they wanted her to show up in Mists and had already written out her boss encounter.
Rai Feb 20th 2012 5:07PM
Azshara's battlemages are faithfully devoted to her and willing to give their lives: it's a safe assumption that they could handle the ice phase with ease, especially considering some are trained in frost magic. It's not really anything that affects the mechanics, but it'd be fun for them to yell.
The lightning phase would have to be possible with two/three people (if Azshara herself even moves the entire fight - she's immune to damage after all) out of fairness, and I doubt the magi would have much trouble with that.
It comes down to timing. I'm going to assume that her Servant of the Queen is forbidden here, otherwise she'd be able to control Hagara shortly before completely dominating her (with Total Obedience, it's not that sort of fight).
Long story short, I'd give this one to Azshara as she's most likely clever enough to use Total Obedience WHILE HAGARA IS STUNNED AFTER A LIGHTNING/FROST PHASE. That's the key thing here.
Philster043 Feb 20th 2012 5:25PM
I'm pretty amused just imagining all of Azshara's mages trying to deal with Hagara's phases. I am actually not sure that Azshara will even have time to try to MC Hagara - I'm of the opinion that Hagara would immediately obliterate Azshara's court and move on to her.
However, Azshara has Shroud of Luminosity. I think it'd be a stalemate.
icepyro Feb 20th 2012 5:41PM
I'm giving this one to Hagara. Why? Marrowgar and Frozen Tempest.
The one thing I have not seen is the one thing Marrowgar also doesn't do: Spike the tank.
If I had to guess, if I had the mad skillz to do it, I would bet that Azshara's Servant of the Queen does not target the person with aggro. What this means is that 1v1, that ability is null and void.
Now that that ability is done with, we have to take care of Total Obedience. Hagara is invulnerable during Frozen Tempest and Lightning Storm. This probably means that all Hagara has to do is cast those when Azshara begins and all is good.
As for her adds, well I'm sure Hagara can take care of those with just about any her abilities. They may seem all over the place, but if there isn't 4 other people to target then they would actually be easier to control (since you always know where they will target if there is only one choice) and keep where she wants - nailed to the ice wall.
Besides, if there is one thing I hate, it is people who "phone it in" and Azshara is the epitome of that. We're all going crazy trying to keep things under control and she's just like "[ring ring] Could you come fight for me?" and then she's gone when there is nobody left to call. DIE ALREADY.
capt.queso Feb 21st 2012 10:45AM
I think when I got puppeteered as the last one alive, it resets the encounter. So the best Azshara can do is wipe it up and try again :)
Revynn Feb 20th 2012 6:36PM
I'm voting for Azshara simply because she's a more interesting character than "random orc chick with a lame catch phrase".
GhostWhoWalks Feb 20th 2012 6:53PM
Quoted again?! Is this your plot, your scheme? http://www.wowhead.com/npc=54432#comments:id=1530705
This match-up is really tough to call, for a couple of reasons.
First, you would think that Azshara could simply put a Hand on Hagara and that would be the end of it. However, as I have learned through soloing old instances, many boss mechanics that rely on multiple party members being present fizzle when there's only one person around (for example, Herald Volazj in Ahn'Kahet will still try and cast Insanity, but if there is only one party member present, nothing happens). CAN Azshara cast Hand when Hagara is the only opponent around? I'm...not sure. Similarly, if Hagara shields herself with her ice or lightning phases, does the shield protect her from Azshara's mind control effects?
I'm going to give my vote to Hagara, but I won't be surprised if Azshara ends up winning in the end.
Leviathon Feb 21st 2012 3:57AM
Eh Azshara lorewise would beat just about any boss.
Soulseared Feb 21st 2012 9:50AM
This is how I see the fight go down:
Azshara glanced at the closest of the Magi waiting on her. So absorbed was he in her beautiful luminous face, that he seemed completely oblivious to the frown of displeasure curving on her lips.
‘You, go see what sort of a person or thing would intrude on my peace,’ she said softly, and the Magi she had glanced at darted as if his life literally depended on her continued peace.
The Palace quite literally thundered, and vibrations shimmered through the room and her servants around her jumped and expertly supported the throne she was resting on.
‘I wish to see what is going on,’
A palanquin appeared as if magically summoned by one of her Magi. The bearers lowered it and she leisurely arranged herself onto it.
The bearers lifted the palanquin and headed towards to doorway. The vibrations barely touched her anymore. Her Keepers flanked her, forming a guard.
The air chilled outside of her chambers, and Azshara surrounded herself with a shield of warmed air.
The sight of some animal filled her view.
‘Azshara, I have come to end you,’
Her melodious laughter broke the silence, ‘End me?’ she asked unable to contain her amusement. ‘At least introduce yourself, erm, lady?’
‘Insolent pup,’ screamed the animal. ‘I am The Stormbinder,’
The blank look on her face must have given away her lack of recognition, for the animal growled in anger ‘It matters not. I am here to cleanse the world of your kind. I am sure it is fitting that you shall be the first.’
The animal bared her teeth and ran towards her, her blades slicing the air so fast that the blades quite literally blurred.
‘I have no time for this. Keepers, which of you will stand for me?’ Azshara asked.
Two of the Keepers readied themselves.
The animal sliced through one of her Keepers like a hot knife through butter. Even in death the Keeper appeared to glance at his Queen lovingly. The other Keeper wasted no time in blasting the animal with beautiful hues of arcane power. The fur on the animal sizzled.
‘You’ll PAY for that,’ the animal screamed. It appeared to channel something. Just as she felt magic surround her shield the palanquin wavered ever so slightly, and she saw the four bearers frozen in place. Even frozen the bearers held their Queen up.
The visibility through the ice was limited but she heard the animal scream ‘I’ll slaughter you all,’ as animal sliced through the second Keeper.
The Keepers surrounding her reacted instantly, their magic melting the ice that has formed around her. She sat comfortable within her bubble of warm air. The animal was powerful but a fool if it thought itself more powerful than Azshara.
She reached out with her mind from within the ice tomb, and found the animal’s life-force. With ease she took control of it.
‘So Hagara is your name,’ she whispered. ‘Well Hagara show me what you can do,’ she commanded.
Her sight was clear now that the Keepers had freed her and the bearers of their tombs.
Hagara summoned a bubble of air that swelled. Sensing what about to happen Azshara extended her shield to surround all four of her bearers. Around her, the guard of Keepers were thrown back. Her mental control had been broken as the bubble formed. Four lines of jagged ice spikes began to form in different directions, and after a few seconds began to rotate. The bearers moved seamlessly and in perfect sync with the walls. They were not strangers to perfection, the walls did not even coming close. One of the Keepers was not fast enough and was sliced apart by one of the walls, now marred red with blood.
‘Keepers, I beseech you all. Rid me of this fool,’
All six of the remaining Keepers ran towards Hagara. She felt powerful arcane powers being yielded by both parties.
Reaching out again she searched for Hagara’s life-force, her mental ability easily slipped through the bubble, and once again she took control.
‘Let us see now Hagara whether you die beneath the ice,’ she made Hagara walk into the gap between two ice walls. ‘Hold still,’ she commanded.
Azshara released control just as the ice wall reached Hagara, leaving no time for Hagara to do anything more than scream ‘NOOOO!'