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2-22-2012 @ 7:46PM
"the orcs proved that they were more than capable of destroying the nearly immortal, magically sophisticated draenei even without the help of their own ancestor spirts and the elementals. "True, but like... you kind of forgot a big part of this whole thing, you know, the whole drinking of the blood of Mannaroth, being infused with fel energy from the Burning Legion. The dark energies of the legion were more than enough to make the orcs significantly stronger in combat than they had been previously.Your statement makes it seem like they didn't have any outside help, when they clearly were channeling far more powerful magics than they had ever done while following the ancestor spirits. I mean Death Knights, Necromancers, blood rage, no mortal race could overcome the intensity of the Orcish Horde that was brought together under Gul'Dan.
2-22-2012 @ 7:47PM
The orcs didn't drink the demon blood until the end of the war. Even before that, they had the draenei on the ropes.
2-22-2012 @ 8:01PM
Well, part of it is that once Orcs had access to the same level of magical advancement as their opponents, they became more than a match for other groups with access to similar levels of knowledge and in many ways, managed to surpass them. It's like you gave a bunch of cavemen some rifles and they came back with detailed notes on how they can improve them.It's worth considering that the Burning Crusade had previously had all those things and they hadn't been as successful with them as the orcs were. Except Death Knights. Gul'dan invented Death Knights. But as a group, the Orcish Horde were a more effective threat to Azeroth than Sageras himself. In fact, if Gul'dan hadn't decide he would like, on the whole, to be Sageras rather than taking his orders and cost the horde a third of their number, Azeroth would've fallen. On that note, there's Orc mages now.
2-22-2012 @ 10:31PM
Sorry Matt, you might have to point me in a different direction here, but my understanding was that the orc tribes all drank the demonic blood, then became super-steroid powerful.Here is my source:http://www.wowpedia.org/Orcs#The_Rise_of_the_Hordehttp://www.wowpedia.org/Mannoroth#Mannoroth_and_the_orcs"With the help of Gul'dan, the Blood of Mannoroth was drunk by the chieftains of the clans, with the exception of Durotan of the Frostwolf. They were engulfed by a demonic bloodlust that wiped out the draenei and damned the orcs forever."Now granted, I never read the novels, but I might need more specifics, because I have a really hard time believing the orcs could cause that much damage to the dranaei without that power boost. The quoted text makes it seem like the orcs drank the blood before going to war against the dranaei, I'd like a clarification if this is incorrect.
2-22-2012 @ 11:45PM
Reading "Rise of the Horde" would be good. The statement you quoted is correct but they did not drink the blood until they attacked Shattrath. They had already destroyed the Black Temple and another place that I cannot remember the name.The power of switching to warlocks also predated their first attacks on the Dranaei. They increased their numbers to fight by using fel energy to age the children very quickly. Finally, Pyromelter, the first few attacks were not predicted by the Dranaei. The first attack was unknown by them and it wiped out a good bit. The attack on what was to become the Black Temple was also a surprise. However the attack on Shat was known about hence the drinking of Mannoroth's blood.
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