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In the gay community, we very commonly describe coming out as a process that you don't only do once. During my day-to-day life, I might meet a new person, have someone from work ask if I'm dating anyone, friend someone from high school on Facebook, or write an article about coming out as a gamer for WoW Insider. Regardless of which situation fits you best, all of these are fairly regular situations that result in needing to come out again.
Being gay and being a gamer -- not as different as you'd think
I think the experiences of coming out as a gamer and coming out as gay have a few very important similarities. In both cases, they're secrets we tend to guard that aren't outwardly visual. Despite stereotypes, you can't actually know whether someone is gay unless they tell you. Likewise, you can't tell that the woman you just bumped into on the side of the road is actually a three-time Gladiator warrior unless you get into a conversation about it.
We also tend to guard these secrets well and are very selective about who we tell them to. Society as a whole tends to have low expectations and opinions of gamers, particularly the ones who label themselves hardcore. There's a casual mental evaluation of people you meet to decide whether you want to out yourself to them. You listen for keywords, waiting for them to drop even the slightest mention that they play Call of Duty, before you can break into the conversation with your own gaming experiences.
Finally, both being gay and being a gamer are things that we might be proud of within a circle of our own friends but that we tend to be petrified of people finding out in the professional sphere. It's one thing to tell your best friends that you can't hang out on Wednesday nights after 9:00 because you have to raid, but is your boss ever going to understand that? You're valuing a commitment to 24 other people, but that doesn't preclude your boss from adding a value judgment to what you're doing.
Can being a professional and being a gamer really coexist?
This topic is something that I'm really interested in, particularly due to the fact that I work for WoW Insider. I'm a 24-year-old whose previous work experiences include working at the same nonprofit organization for eight years in a row and who is currently in the process of applying for a lot of full-time jobs, particularly in fields that require writing. I simply don't have the luxury of excluding WoW Insider from my resume, and I'm proud enough of my work here that I wouldn't if I could.

I've since discovered a lot of tricks to making my WI work sound good. I talk about the importance of social media in regards to professional blogging. I speak on the importance of writing regularly and that WI gives me a great outlet to do that. I've talked about the use of mathematics, simulations, and spreadsheets and their vital importance to understanding game mechanics, and I've talked about how my job is to help teach that understanding to others. And since I mainly work with kids, I use my job as video game blogger to emphasize my relatability with kids, and I talk about how I can use my story to inspire kids to focus in school. Because, really, despite the overarching societal view of gamers, every single 8- to 13-year-old kid I've ever worked with has wanted my job, even if they've never heard of World of Warcraft.
There are many other talking points for the benefit of video games that you could use in a professional setting. There are a variety of TED Talks out there that talk about video games, particularly as a teaching tool. There's the discussion of time management that allow hardcore raiders to raid and have a real life. There are even talking points like the discussion of WoW as social media, the effects of anonymity on how rude people are to one another, and whether it's the job of video games to force us to be good people.
Is it up to us to force the conversation?
The truth is that WoW (and gaming in general) does actually open up a wealth of intelligent discussion ideas. The sad thing is that social stigma relegates that discussion to blogs, podcasts, and forum posts. Very similarly to the Mattachine Society of the '50s, we tend to keep our important discussions in our own very close-knit groups of people who already accept us. Our reasoning for doing that is very valid; we still exist in a world that tells gamers over the age of 18 to grow up and accept the real world, while we're off exploring and learning in a "fake" one.

To take from the Mattachine Society, their course of action was to come out of the closet. From the Stonewall Riots of the 1960s to the gay marriage debates in America today, only by coming out did the gay community force a worldwide conversation about homosexuality. I don't mean to say that gaming and being gay are comparable on anywhere near the same level in regards to actual persecution, but just to make this point: If we're not the ones forcing people to accept that there are well adjusted, well educated, and professional people who play video games and who use video games as a tool for continued learning and discussion, whose fault is it that the term "hardcore gamer" still brings up the image of an acned Cartman from South Park with a pee bottle and a gaming addiction?
At the same time, is anyone willing to risk their job or even risk lowering their employer's opinion of them for something as inconsequential as a national dialogue about gaming? And, if they are, is that the right decision?
At the same time, is anyone willing to risk their job or even risk lowering their employer's opinion of them for something as inconsequential as a national dialogue about gaming? And, if they are, is that the right decision?
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Firiun123 Feb 24th 2012 7:12PM
Gamers as a stereotype are a lazy, idle bunch. Yet like it or not, more and more people are playing "FarmVille" and other games. All we Wow players do that is different is think before we click.
Noyou Feb 24th 2012 9:40PM
My brain is usually so active, playing video games helps me focus on something so I calm down and relax. Even if it's PvP :p
yagamimoon Feb 24th 2012 7:14PM
Is it really wise to compare being gay to being gamer? Because you dont get across harder social stigmas than trying to be happy being yourself, and gay :(
Pazazu Feb 24th 2012 9:28PM
I'm not really sure why this got downvoted so much, as it is a valid concern. I had the same thought when I saw the title of this post. That being said, I felt after reading that the comparison was handled fairly, and without belittling the prejudice experienced by members of the LGBTQ community.
sharlatan Feb 25th 2012 6:29AM
Personally I find it pretty offensive for the comparrison. I think the writer belittles the very real and often very dangerous discrimination some people experience due to their sexuality. In some countries it carries a death sentance, and he compares being a gamer to this?
Whilst I can maybe understand how someone who has never experienced discrimination can draw such a comparrison, I think he should be more careful in future about making such comments.
Peebers Feb 25th 2012 8:52AM
you're all stupid.
Beleth Feb 25th 2012 7:33PM
Josh explicitly states "we in the gay community...". In other words, his comparison is based on his own experiences within both gay and gaming communities (I personally have friends in both, often overlapping). So keep that in mind before criticizing.
Gosten Feb 24th 2012 7:15PM
I'm more comfortable talking about my video game addiction to prospective employers than I am of the fact I'm a military veteran. They hear '3 tours in Iraq' and automatically assume I have PTSD. At least with video games I can play it off as a hobby instead of listing it on my work history. You can't, but I can.
Eamara Feb 25th 2012 12:04PM
I put my experiences in WoW on my CV, because I believe the game has helped me improve as a person and develop skills necessary for success in almost any career. Anyone who has been a raid leader and officer in a guild will know what I'm talking about.
Did that contribute to my almost a year-long search for a job? Maybe. Maybe there were employers out there who saw WoW and immediately made an ignorant judgement call.
If that happened, then all I can say is this: I wouldn't have wanted to work for such a closed-minded company anyway. I'm better off without them.
Since that time, I have found a brilliant employer who gave me a chance to prove myself. They gave me the job when they realised I was the best candidate for it, and WoW only contributed to my skills, never detracted.
I now have brilliant benefits, plenty of career advancement opportunities, and an open-minded set of colleagues. Is that down to my being open about my gaming hobby? Maybe, maybe not. But someone has to stand up for our beloved hobby.
Gaming will never become a respected past time while we hide in the shadows, refusing to 'out' ourselves as gamers. If we don't think it's a worthwhile hobby, then how can anyone else? The confidence and respectability starts with us.
However, something important to remember... Be a civil ambassador for gaming. Represent us in a positive light. Don't sink to the levels of those who insult our passion. Explain the positives of gaming, and if that doesn't work, simply ignore. Never insult. Never hate.
Stand up for your hobby. Be proud of who you are. Gaming will become a respected art form just like films and books, but only with our hard work. Good luck everyone. Make gamers proud.
Kole Feb 24th 2012 7:58PM
Thank you for this. I had become a "Civil Ambassador" for people that have large stretched earlobes. Many people would talk to me about my ears and I felt obligated to show them that I am a human being too. One that may look different than they do, but someone with the same worries, joys, and desires that they have. I have to believe that I changed peoples minds from thinking "Hey look at that disgusting freak" into "Hey that guy/gal has interesting body art."
It may not be their cup of tea, but that doesn't mean it isn't the right choice for someone else. This applies to tattoos/piercings, gaming, being gay; so MANY things.
Automan2k Feb 24th 2012 7:20PM
There is also the issue that no one is trying to pass laws that prevent WoW players from getting married.
Revnah Feb 25th 2012 4:43AM
That's very true, and of course far more serious than anything gamers face. But there *are* similarities also, for example gamers are thought of as anti-social people incapable of having a relationship, and I remember well the late 80s when the AIDS debate started and gay people were generally labelled as "promiscuous"...
Yook Feb 24th 2012 7:22PM
While I really, really, really dislike your statement that being a gamer and being a closeted LGBT person are somehow analogous, I do agree with the conclusion of your article. I'd like to add that we get one shot to live a life that is honest and true to ourselves, and if you find yourself in a position where something you have a passion for is likely to have you judged and shamed...it might be worth taking a look at that position again...
Christopher Garry Feb 24th 2012 7:28PM
What in the world does the fact that you're gay have to do with getting across your underlying thesis about gaming identity? You could have written just as good an article without it. I find it senseless and unproductive in my own work to punctuate any points I have using references to my sexual orientation. Being heterosexual is a boring topic. And so is being gay.
Jeff (Not that one ^ ) Feb 24th 2012 8:10PM
It's only boring if you're not getting any.
shatnerstorm2 Feb 24th 2012 8:12PM
"Being heterosexual is a boring topic, and so is being gay."
Of course it is, because 99 percent of the population assumes that you are. It always astonishes me when people bring up the "don't flaunt it" criticism. If you took out every mention of heterosexual relationships - which includes spouses, boyfriends, girlfriends, AND children (sure, some are adopted, but they're the minority) - in our mass media (including the Internet), advertisements and day-to-day conversations, you'd have to eliminate 90 percent of everything.
Being gay might be a boring topic to some, but for most folks, it instantly changes their perception of who you are, and usually not in a positive light. The same is true of gaming at times, and that's the point Josh is trying to make.
Christopher Garry Feb 24th 2012 8:57PM
I spend 8 hours a day for the last two years working for a homosexual man. We collaborate, we author, we design, we argue, we present, etc. His orientation or his experience of it has NEVER been use to support a thesis in his professional life with me. No point he has ever made professionally, creatively or even managerially has ever required him to fall back on "orientation" to support it. Josh's orignal point in the article could have been made just as well without mentioning homosexuality. At best it's irrelevant, at worst, it's now proving to be distracting, since that's now most of what the responses are about. It wasn't worth discussing in a gaming blog.
This article could have focused on the social (friends, family, work, etc) stigmas relevant to gaming, without likening "gamer" stigmas to "gay" stigmas, since it doesn't hold up and ultimately weakens the thesis. For example, firing someone for being gay is wrong, while firing someone because they fail to perform their duties isn't. As a hiring manager, it's a red flag hearing a candidate feels strongly enough to mention in the interview or on a resume being a gamer, if the information is irrelevant for the position. Failing to balance gaming with a career can get you fired. That is worth discussing.
rnadratowski Feb 24th 2012 9:02PM
It's always interesting to see how people take a blog (a Web site that contains an online PERSONAL journal with reflections, comments, and often hyperlinks provided by the writer - Merriam-Webster) and personalize it. This is Josh's story regarding his personal feelings on comming out as a gamer and a gay man. Frankly, as a gay man myself, it is refreshing to hear about other peoples struggles with both. As it is fine to give your opinion or critique of his writing, a basic understanding of his article and point of view is important to him to deliver this point. I guess perspective makes all the difference.
shatnerstorm2 Feb 24th 2012 9:16PM
"As a hiring manager, it's a red flag hearing a candidate feels strongly enough to mention in the interview or on a resume being a gamer, if the information is irrelevant for the position. Failing to balance gaming with a career can get you fired. That is worth discussing."
That's the point of this entire article. Many employers assume that gamers are lazy lowlifes who will put videogames before their jobs, whereas Josh is arguing that some aspects of gaming - for example, guild or raid leadership in WoW - are relevant to certain positions. Likewise, while most employers these days don't think that having an openly gay person will be disruptive, many in the past did, and some of the more conservative ones still do.
Both scenarios are related to the stigma in our society surrounding both demographics that employers are far from immune to. Let's face it, most of the time you don't get to the top or even the middle of the corporate ladder by challenging the status quo.
You can disagree with that thesis if you want - I admit, I agree that putting gaming or any LGBT activism on a resume is a risky decision at best - but the comparison is entirely valid and the point of the article is to challenge that very assumption.
Ace Feb 24th 2012 9:38PM
This is the point of the article:
-Being a gamer has a negative stigma in today's society. We are proud of our lives, but others don't understand and look down on it.
-Another group that had a stigma like this is the gay community.
-Here's how the gay community helped to make themselves heard and more widely respected. It has benefited them in their quality of life and acceptance in society.
-Should we take similar action and "come out" to the world, and try to show them how many "normal", productive members of society are gamers? (like the LBGT community has)
Hmm... Sounds like the correlation between the gay community's stigma, struggle, and solution is VERY relevant to the actual point of the article.