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2-24-2012 @ 7:37PM
At the risk of abusing the meme, if you have to "incentivize" an aspect of a game, "you are doing it wrong."If 25-man raids are indeed dying, what it tells me is that not enough people enjoy the format of 25s more than that of the 10s. Yes - this leaves some players feeling like their preferred play style isn't available, but bribing reluctant others to fill the raid they'd rather avoid isn't the answer. If Blizzard wants to "save" 25s, it should instead identify what is it that pushes the majority of players away.Personally speaking, I was happy to switch to 10s and never look back as soon as Blizzard announced equal loot, because, in my experience, the recruiting needs of the 25s exposed me to more people I'd otherwise choose not to play with (including some outright asshats). In contrast, I'm friends with all of my 10s co-raiders, which makes HM Dragon Soul all the more enjoyable.
2-24-2012 @ 7:47PM
@jjustaposter:I'm glad you are happy in your top-100 25-man raiding guild. However, not everyone can play at that level due to the skill and raiding commitment required. Yes, most of us are by definition more casual. I'm not sure why that makes us more shitty.I know there are lots of raiders more skilled than I am, and there are lots less skilled than I am. Their raiding skill isn't what makes someone a shitty person. I'm sure there are lots of top-100 raiders who are not shitty people, but you have pointed out at least one that is.
2-24-2012 @ 8:04PM
@jjustaposter:Evolution is good. Sure, WoW was built on the EQ experience - and I am glad it "fixed" lots of annoyances (remember the grindiness or the XP loss from deaths?) from that game. I have raided 72s in EQ, 40s in Vanilla, and 25s up to the end of Wrath - and the fact that the same ex-EQ WoW developers saw sense in smaller numbers isn't something to QQ about.From all the "25s are dying" hullabaloo, it is apparent that people who'd rather play 25s (or would quit if they couldn't) do not comprise even close to 20% of the playerbase. Blizzard is going with what most players have fun with - if that's not for you, feel free to go. And with your caustic "you sorta are the shitty casual majority" attitude, I doubt you'll be missed.Finally, while you were busy being a poser, you missed the point of the post to which you replied. That point isn't "10s are better" or "25s are better." The point is that bribing a majority of players into playing parts of the game they don't like is the wrong approach - instead, either fix what's turning them off, or scrap the undesirable parts. Blizzard has done it before - the single graveyard in the Barrens, the endless turtle in WSG, the zones that didn't have enough quests to level up and required mindless mob grinding, the class-specific Tier sets, the multi-cast mining nodes, etc. - and will undoubtedly do it again.
2-25-2012 @ 11:17AM
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