Are pure DPS classes really just another form of hybrid in disguise?

Once upon a time, my guild was trying its hardest to down 25-man heroic mode Lich King. It was the very end of Wrath, and we were running out of time to put an end to the boss before the inevitable launch of Cataclysm. I had been playing an assassination spec since some point between Ulduar and ToC, having given up on ever obtaining a really good combat weapon (I was partial to fist weapons; something about punching people in the face with knives appealed to me), and I was really good at it. I spent forever poring over stat caps and best-in-slot items and had just gotten the perfect set of items that capped every stat that needed to be capped.
And then it happened -- the prep patch for Cataclysm. Do you know what the best stat is for an assassination rogue in Cataclysm (other than hit, of course)? Mastery. Do you know what wasn't present on any Wrath gear? Mastery. My DPS went down, and due to sup-par burst DPS, I was sat for the realm-first 25-man heroic mode Lich King kill. I watched all my guildies ding the achievement and get the one title I was really excited about. And later, one of the officers, a druid, asked me flat out -- why didn't I have a backup combat spec?
Oh ... if only he knew.
And then it happened -- the prep patch for Cataclysm. Do you know what the best stat is for an assassination rogue in Cataclysm (other than hit, of course)? Mastery. Do you know what wasn't present on any Wrath gear? Mastery. My DPS went down, and due to sup-par burst DPS, I was sat for the realm-first 25-man heroic mode Lich King kill. I watched all my guildies ding the achievement and get the one title I was really excited about. And later, one of the officers, a druid, asked me flat out -- why didn't I have a backup combat spec?
Oh ... if only he knew.
Orcish Army Knife made a post last week that pretty much explains in detail what's so difficult about being a pure DPS class. Now, I'm sure every hybrid class out there is in a state of uproar by that statement, but to be perfectly honest, he's absolutely right. Playing a pure DPS class is difficult -- and it's got absolutely nothing to do with the actual gameplay aspect of it. Rotations are rotations. Some are tougher than others, but they're easy enough to get a handle on with practice.
It's not rotations; it's gear. And I imagine druids are gaping in fury at that statement. Don't get me wrong -- I understand perfectly the woes of playing a druid, having done so for at least part of vanilla and part of The Burning Crusade and Wrath as well. I know full well the struggle of having to carry two or three entirely different sets of gear for different specs, and my druid's bags were never empty as a result of it. However, there's a distinct difference between druids and pure DPS classes. Druids are expected and have been expected to have several different sets of gear since day one, pretty much. It's the same with shaman, paladins -- heck, any class that performs multiple roles.
For those of us that do nothing but hit the boss until it's dead, it's a little different. Before you ask the inevitable question of why we don't simply reforge when we've got a spec change, let's take a look at rogue stat priorities, OK?
- Assassination Melee Hit > Spell Hit > Mastery > Haste > Expertise > Crit
- Combat Melee Hit > Expertise > Haste > Spell Hit > Mastery > Crit
- Subtlety Melee Hit > Haste > Expertise > Crit > Spell Hit > Mastery

In Cataclysm, that's changed completely. There are fights that almost require an off spec to be used if you want to put out optimal DPS for that fight. There are fights where I have to pick up a subtlety spec, of all things, in order to soak damage. Heroic Morchok is one of those examples; we use subtlety spec rogues standing under Morchok to feint and absorb his Stomp damage without falling flat on our faces. It works, and it works great! However, do you know what my DPS looks like if I switch from assassination to subtlety, keeping in mind my gear is all balanced around the stat priorities listed above? Oooo, my DPS tanks.
And for a pure DPS class, that's about the worst thing that can possibly happen to you. Your job as DPS is to simply pump out as much damage as humanly possibly on whatever target you happen to be killing -- and if you can't do that, what good are you? Rades' post at Orcish Army Knife really got me thinking about this topic and how I handle Heroic Morchok and my dismal DPS numbers for that fight, and it really boiled down to my frame of mind as I looked at the fight.

And that's exactly what a hybrid does -- only a hybrid does it way more effectively. Need a healer? Let me toss on my healing gear and do that for you. Need a tank? Let me pull out my tank set and do that for you. It seems like, whether we like it or not, DPS is actually turning into a sneaky sort of hybrid class. We don't have different specs for different roles, necessarily; we have different specs for different types of damage dealing -- or in the case of rogues, damage soaking.
Several months ago, Matthew Rossi wrote a post asking the question is it time to kill pure DPS? Given what I've experienced in Cataclysm, I'd have to say that while pure DPS isn't identical to being a hybrid class, we've already been irrevocably changed. Not dead, just ... different. It started back in Wrath when a very confused rogue watched everyone else get that realm-first kill, listened to that druid officer ask, "Why don't you have a backup combat spec?" and quietly answered to herself, "Because up until today, I never needed one."
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Legs Feb 27th 2012 1:15PM
I'm not *entirely* sure what the issue is, in the sense that if different specs have such different secondary stat weighting, why don't you just build up 2 sets of gear?
Obviously one set will be your best gear (i.e. your main spec), while your offspec won't be as good, but that's sort of the deal with off specs. Worst case, if you're pushing heroic progression, you can probably afford to spend a few hundred gold and a few minutes to pop back to SW to reforge/regem for a particular encounter.
Nina Katarina Feb 27th 2012 1:25PM
The problem comes when you have to convince your raid to gear up your offspec, and that offspec's gear is identical to your regular spec gear. Now, this isn't such a problem if you're one of two people in the raid on your token. But if you're a warlock fighting for cloth gear with the mages and priests and fighting for tokens with 4 other people in your 10-man, arguing that you need a second helm token for your offspec when very few people can tell you change spec...
My raid always knows when I go dps for a one-tank fight, or when our shaman goes ele for a 2-heal fight. They put priorities on getting our offspecs geared. But our arcane mage is only getting tokens for her fire spec because we've had appalling luck in teh token drop department.
Catsmeow Feb 27th 2012 1:32PM
I don't think that Anne is really bringing this up as an issue that needs to be resolved. I think that she is bringing it up as an object of discussion, to illustrate the disparity between the old paradigm and the new.
Scard Feb 27th 2012 1:35PM
I can't tell you how many times in DS I wish I had two gear sets on my mage. One for fire (crit) and one for arcane (haste).
To answer Legs question, because its harder than building that healing off-set. That healing mail piece that just dropped? Resto shammy already has it. So it goes for DE or an off-set. That cloth DPS piece that just dropped? Mage already has it. But the warlock or shadow priest needs it for main set. Often DPS pieces have to drop 3-4 times before it goes to DE or off-set. This means it takes 3-4 times as long before a DPS off-set is even worth it.
Legs Feb 27th 2012 1:42PM
Fair points, and I didn't intend to shoot down the whole article, that's for sure.
I think the annoyance/difficulty of building up 2 sets is probably quite amplified for someone like Anne who is clearly in a pretty hardcore/advanced progression guild (and can I assume doing 25man?): I come from a more casual 10man guild, where having a few pieces down half a tier isn't as big a deal (and the lfr has made getting that half tier below much much easier).
Pyromelter Feb 27th 2012 1:49PM
If you really want two sets of gear, just don't vendor or DE your old gear, and reforge your one-tier-behind gear for the off-spec.
There are also some specs in the game where they aim for a balance of haste-crit-mastery, always possible blizz could move in that direction for more of the pure dps class specs.
loop_not_defined Feb 27th 2012 1:59PM
Consider the fact that in a less hardcore environment, many healers could use the same gear for both Healing and DPS (Paladins being the only case where that's never true). Sure, the specs have different stat optimizations, but as most Pure DPS know, that situation isn't unique to healers.
Neirin Feb 27th 2012 2:07PM
If your raid group is pushing progression hard enough that they need you in another spec for some of the encounters, getting them to let you gear up that off-spec is incredibly easy. It's much harder to convince people to let you gear up an alt.
Anne Stickney Feb 27th 2012 2:11PM
Imagine a rogue heading into LFR with a full set of tier gear. Now imagine that rogue rolling on tier tokens, and when asked what for, replying "It's for my offspec set."
...yeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaah that's gonna go over well!
VSUReaper Feb 27th 2012 3:01PM
Nina hit it right on, and the very last thing Anne wrote sums it up through most of the game until Cata "I never needed one until now".
My best friend used to raid with me in a 25 man during wrath, and we had the same issue with her: she was a dagger rogue, always was a dagger rogue, and never needed or wanted a combat spec.
Patch hit an we had to assemble several speed runs for her to get combat weapons so she could retain her spot.
Fortunately for her, she got the 2 heroic axes she needed within 3 weeks, and it wasn't really an issue, but it still sucked for her when she was suddenly rendered impotent for the only thing that she thought her class did: DPS.
I'm personally of the opinion that the 4 pure classes aren't actually pure dps classes, but control classes, and other than the warlock class, that's true (locks need a glyph to be viable CC). Think back to TBC, what was spammed in trade?
LF Tank, healer, Mage/rogue/hunter, and 1 dps.
Every group needed a way to cc a mob, and it just happened to be that 3 of the 4 "pure" classes were that cc option.
Fast forward to dragon soul heroic fights, my guild requires everyone to be dual spec'd and be able to justify your off spec.
Your a lock? You better have an aoe spec and a burst spec
Warrior? You better have a tank and an arms spec
Rogue? Your single target and your morchok spec. Have something other than morchok and you better explain yourself fast or get benched.
doktorstick Feb 27th 2012 3:22PM
@Nina
How is gearing up two specs any different than a hybrid gearing up two specs? In Dragon Soul, combat spec is arguably the best spec. Our rogue has declared combat as his main spec. He gets main spec rolls for that gear, off-spec for gear more suited to assassination. No different than the casters getting main spec caster items before the enhancement shaman challenges the retribution paladin in off-spec healing gear.
The author's whole argument revolves around gearing. It's weak argument at best; it further pollutes the internet at worst. Methinks think the author is still bitter about WotLK.
Pure DPS going the way of the dodo? Meh, I don't care either way. It's the poor article that inspired me to post.
loop_not_defined Feb 27th 2012 3:59PM
doctorstick, Anne's whole article is about how Pure DPS deserve to build an off-spec suit just as much as Hybrids do. That might seem obvious to you, but it isn't obvious to the vast majority of WoW players. They are the ones who need to read this article.
Sorro Feb 27th 2012 6:16PM
If you're going to be needed in two specs that require separate pieces of gear, then you need to acquire that gear. If you can explain it here, you can explain it to your raid leader. If the alternative is to be dropped from your raid, then make your case. It's the same case that a hybrid makes for offspec gear.
If I were raid leading and you came to me with that argument, I would agree to you collecting a second set of rogue gear at the same priority as my hybrids collect their second set of raid gear.
ikutcher Feb 27th 2012 6:29PM
I'm finding it hard to feel sympathy for pure dps classes only now needing to carry backup gear for different specs.
Maybe it's because I'm a Druid and have to carry around my tank set, a feral dps set and a healing set (as well as a pvp set). However, the argument that you need to convince people of your need for offspec loot is, at it's core, no different to me claiming need of healing gear for my offspec.
Offspec is offspec, it should always be of a lower priority than somebody who needs it for main spec. Should you get a piece of tier gear for your offspec before your Druid friend gets his first? I'll agree that there's a need for it, but putting forth the argument that it's tough because you can't perfectly gear your offspec doesn't garner sympathy. Welcome to the rest of hybrids and our not-quite-as-good offspec gear.
kabshiel Feb 27th 2012 1:18PM
I know my warlock was in that same boat. I was destruction specced, but expected to go demonology for heavy AOE fights. What was destruction's worst stat? Mastery. What was demonology's best? Mastery. Was I allowed to roll on off spec gear? Nope (mostly because there's such a huge demand for cloth gear in my guild)
Snuzzle Feb 27th 2012 11:06PM
The thing is, though, unless you're currently in BIS gear or fairly close to it, there's not much difference. And unless you're in a realm-first guild or one competing to be such, it doesn't matter much. What do you lose, a couple k dps by being more mastery heavy than you ought to be? Reforge as needed, if you're going to be an off-spec all night, else just don't worry about it.
If you know you're going to be ased to switch specs often, reforge to a happy medium between the two specs. I can see the problem, but really, unless you're in the sort of guild who is going to bench you for not min-maxing, it's not as much of an issue as the article is making it out to be.
And you should have just as easy a time picking up off-spec pieces as a hybrid would. A boomkin isn't going to be allowed to roll on agi leather unless none of the rogues/cats/bears need it; and you're not going to be allowed to roll on offspec cloth unless it's not an upgrade for one of the other DPS casters' main spec. Fair is fair.
Løgic Feb 28th 2012 1:07PM
@Snuzzle That isn't entirely true. I play a mage, my main spec is fire but I've switched to arcane to pull some more dps on a few fight. Like kabshiel was saying, certain stat weights are vastly different. With the same gear, for my Fire spec I had just over 8 or 9 mastery and around 25% crit, with my gear regemmed and reforged for Arcane I have around 18 mastery and 18% crit. Imagine me being told to go fire for one fight with my current gear setup, I'd do worse than the offtank. Which actually happened, I'm arcane for Hagara heroic since we have ranged stack in the center but we decided to down her on normal for the achievment so I switched to fire. I hardly broke 20k dps, the only reason I did is that i got a lucky Combustion off during heroism.
pinteresque Feb 29th 2012 9:24AM
The thing is, especially for mages, it isn't just that arcane gear has a haste plateau to reach and fire will take as much crit as you throw at it; all of Fire's abilities proc off of crit. Messing with the RNG throws everything out of whack and takes a non-trivial chunk out of your dps.
wmbrguild Feb 27th 2012 1:21PM
All I can say is.......booo hooo. So you have to do something else that isn't just mashing buttons.
Healers, Tanks, and hybrids have made sacrifices every tier for the sake of the raid. It's nice to have pures being more team players than they're used to. Keep it coming.
Zachariahs Feb 27th 2012 1:31PM
I didn't see any complaining about the added responsibility pure dps was given in the article above. In fact she was ok with it.