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3-02-2012 @ 2:54PM
Shinanji:We have only the published statements of several Activision and Blizzard employees that Activision does not interfere in Blizzard's operation. We are not privy to internal meetings between Activision and Blizzard employees, so no-one can say with certainty that it's true.I would argue that Activision has been increasing its influence since buying Blizzard and will increase its influence even faster. Losing 2 million subscribers and that revenue stream will sound the klaxons at Activision HQ and they will respond with a direct hand. They have to; Activision has shareholders it has to answer to. To not do so would put them at risk of a shareholder revolt and lawsuits.Do I attribute this layoff to less than honorable reasons? Yup. Activision has a history of being jerks and taking the low road when it comes to increasing profits so a 600 person first round layoff is not above them. When it comes to business in general and Activision in particular I would always follow the money first and foremost. Anything else without verification is speculation at best, delusion/rationalization at worst.
3-02-2012 @ 5:17PM
You base this on nothing more than tin foil hat opinion. Show facts or stfu.
3-02-2012 @ 5:33PM
Sorry, but Activision didnt buy Blizzard.Vivendi, the parent company of Blizzard, bought Activision creating Activision-Blizzard.
3-02-2012 @ 6:33PM
raingod:Google is a wonderful thing. Try using it with these terms: "activision poor treatment employee".As for facts...I have Activision's prior history, a pretty good estimate of their monthly revenue from WoW subscriptions alone (I don't count any other source of revenue, such as the Blizzard store, Starcraft, etc) and the fact that Diablo 3 will be a blockbuster hit with the potential to break the records Halo set for sales revenue.What facts do you have? One statement from one person, and.....?
3-02-2012 @ 7:36PM
Sadly for you, these "facts" you keep relying on aren't very factual evidence of anything and are just as largely based on speculation as the examples in the actual article. First of all, if you consider Activision's history a fact you have to look at and include their ENTIRE history, not just a skewed perspective including all the bad things they've done or caused as a company. I'm by no means naive enough to think Activision wouldn't put profit as their number one priority, but if you're going to consider this company's history a "fact" then please consider all of it, not just the bits that fit your argument.Secondly, as has already been pointed out to you, you're relying on your own personal ideas of Blizzard's income a month (because no, it's by FAR not as easy as $15/$10/$8 x 10 million subscribers). This is pure speculation and even if a few dollars per person give or take might not be a substantial number, once it gets multiplied by 10 million that number grows significantly larger. That aside, I do agree Blizzard has a very solid income to fund their company. HOWEVER, you aren't even considering the cost to run the company, all it's projects, and other assets on a daily basis. I'm not even talking about the development of new products, simply the maintenance of the existing buildings, games, staff wages, servers, etc, etc. Unless you're intimately familiar with the amount of money these things cost, basing your argument off numbers YOU yourself assumed makes your argument no more informed or "based in reality (as you keep calling it)" than the article above.All in all it seems like your argument stems more from a total and utter distrust of companies, and Activision in particular, rather than any factual evidence. True, the article itself really doesn't rely on too much hard evidence either, because quite frankly there is very little available. However, if you distrust the company you pay on a monthly basis for their product and service so much you cannot base your arguments in trust, rather than distrust, perhaps it's time for you to re-evaluate whether you should be paying for their services in the first place.Personally, as an aspiring concept artist and game designer, I've not ever seen or met people as passionate and honest about their love for the products they create than the employees and management at Blizzard. Sure, they make mistakes, they are after all only human. But so far nothing you have said has had any factual ground, so I see no reason to change my mind about it.
3-02-2012 @ 8:57PM
angelwings017:While Activision had had a long history I'm not interested in any of it prior to the current CEO and its current owners. It has no bearing on today's company considering who's in charge. Mr Kotich was CEO of Activision before Vivendi purchased it and he was kept in charge once Activision and Blizzard were bought by Vivendi. Mr Kotich as a particular management style and history throughout his entire tenure as CEO of Activision and Activision-Blizzard and to ignore it is stupid.And again, you misrepresent what I have repeatedly stated, like Drakkenfyre. I never said the monthly money stream from WoW subscriptions is PROFIT; I stated repeatedly it is REVENUE. If you must misrepresent what I have posted then I'm not going to waste my time with you.As an aside, if anyone is interested in discussing the latest SEC filing I'd be happy to. The latest annual report is from 2/29/2012 and is 75 pages. Respond here with citations and we'll go over it. As for my mistrust of the released statement I stated why I don't trust it: Activision under Mr. Kotich's tenure has done a number of slimy things to developers and employees under its umbrella as well as its customers. I don't trust Mr. Kotich to do the ethical action, and that mistrust is supported by his actions over the years. Why you feel the need to read more into that is beyond me; maybe you should look more inward than outward for why you do so.And as an aspiring artist and designer if you haven't worked with business men like Mr. Kotich you will. Any business who has shareholders to answer to will have the Mr. Kotich. They have to; he makes shareholders money, which is his job. That does not put him, his subordinates, and the shareholders who put him in charge above criticism. That so many are willing to overlook his actions over the years and the statements he's made confounds me.
3-04-2012 @ 3:50AM
Okay.. let me clarify this before I say anything else. I do not intend to spend my time discussing things I don't particularly worry over on the internet for long. With that said, I have absolutely no looking inward to do at this point. I never intended to change your opinion on the matter because I believe you're entitled to have it. What I was doing, however, is analyze the responses you had given prior to my comment to the best of my ability and point out the arguments I personally disagreed with. Again, all I said in the end is that I personally found your factual information to not be as factual as you may consider it to be. And perhaps, if you honestly distrust this company so much it's not the best place to spend your money.Personally, I do trust Blizzard as a company separate from Activision and expect them to do all they reasonably can to make right and ethical decisions. If they do not have that power and are still forced to cut 600 people, Mr. Morhaime's statement of regretting it isn't any less true. Again, this is MY opinion, and you're free to have your own. Just realize that people might disagree, and point out why they do. I care very little if you disagree with my opinion, personally.I'm sure that in the future I will have to deal with business men of the kind you mistrust. I'm sure at that point in time I will agree with you on the fact there is some terrible people in the world. However, I never overlooked the actions of Activision's CEO, considering I was expressing my opinion on Blizzard's team :) Now, if that's all clear then I hope for your sake you can leave this be ;) Let's just agree to disagree now that we've both had our say. I don't intend to change your opinion and I hope that you will have the decency to respect mine.
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