The trials and tribulations of being a raiding roleplayer
There have always been different designations for different aspects of WoW. If you want to fight other players, it's PvP. If you want to fight designed encounters, that's PvE. And if you want to roleplay with other players, that's RP. Three different realm types, each with their own designations, right? There's one other realm type out there, the RP-PvP server, for those who would like to roleplay and fight other players.
But there seems to be a long-held stigma for raiding players that states raiders are not roleplayers, can never be roleplayers, do not understand roleplayers, and therefore do not belong in a roleplaying community. So if you're a raider and you want to RP, how do you go about setting that stigma aside and enjoying your non-raiding time roleplaying? While I may not be able to give a precise answer to that question, I can certainly share my experiences with it.
Yep, I'm a roleplayer. And a raider.

I used to be in a hardcore raiding guild on a PvE server where roleplay didn't exist. When that guild finally died, I decided to start over and roll a character on an RP server. This was vanilla WoW and server transfers were not available yet, so I had to start at level 1. This actually worked in my favor, as later years would reveal. Here's what I learned, as a total noob wandering into the world of roleplay:
- Roleplaying servers vary widely in open-world roleplay. I picked a server that sounded good, without doing a lot of research. However, I'd recommend to anyone choosing to go to a roleplaying server that they roll a low-level alt and head to the nearest capital city. Look around and see how much roleplaying you actually see out in public and whether or not that works for you.
- Starting at level 1 was a blessing in disguise. Why? Because I wasn't running around in full tier gear politely asking for roleplay, I was simply some little schlub level 10 that quite happily matched her gear into eye-pleasing sets rather than going for some optimum set of twink gear. As I discovered in later years, running in with full tier is almost a red flag to other roleplayers that you come from someplace very different in the world and you may not be the roleplayer you profess to be.
- Addons are amazing tools for picking out available roleplayers. Roleplaying addons like FlagRSP, MyRoleplay, or TotalRP are all there so that you can share your character description with the world. But it also allows you to see the descriptions of other roleplayers -- which makes it super easy to identify roleplayers out and about in the city or in the world.
- Saying hello is really, really hard to do. The largest obstacle to roleplaying, it turned out, was myself -- my own shyness. I wasn't really certain if just walking up to someone and saying hello would work or not. I spent hours simply sitting someplace just out of the way of a group gathering and watching them roleplay, observing how they interacted. Needless to say, while I got plenty of entertainment (better than TV!), I didn't really get any roleplay at all.

- One hello is all you need. However, after hours of watching other people roleplay, I started to relax. Obviously, these people expected to be talked to. And my first hello was a random stranger walking down the streets of Stormwind, who made a crack at my character's clothing. I snapped back a well-timed and funny retort, and poof -- just like that, my roleplaying career began.
- Don't over-prepare that first character. My downfall with that particular character was that I spent an awfully long time building up a backstory and a reason for her being in the world. I had a very specific purpose in mind for her journey -- but I hadn't really spent any time thinking about what would happen after that journey was over. By the time I got to her journey's end, I had nothing to do. I had literally written myself into a corner, because I was so earnestly trying to develop her to her fullest extent. That's where I learned one of the most important parts of roleplay.
- Go with the flow. It's great to have a character with a cool backstory and a reason for being in the world, but giving that character just one reason for existence will lock you into that one path. If I had simply relaxed and gone with the flow, interacting with other people and letting their stories steer my story, the experience probably would have gone a lot more smoothly.

After roleplaying a new character in The Burning Crusade on a different RP server, I decided to step back into raiding again. The biggest drawback to raiding and roleplaying is that you have a schedule for raiding activity. If a roleplay event occurs during a time that you're supposed to be raiding, you're going to have to decide -- skip the raiding or skip the roleplaying event. In general, roleplaying events don't really depend on your presence to succeed.
Raiding, on the other hand, is a commitment to 24 other people, and you're letting those people down if you skip the raiding in favor of attending a roleplaying event. It's up to you to make that decision. For me, raiding always came first, because I didn't want to let those 24 people down. But I still wanted to roleplay, so I tried to reconcile raiding with roleplaying. I tried a few different ways to do it, each with their own varying measures of success.
- Schedule roleplay. The easiest method in my eyes was to simply schedule roleplay with other roleplayers in my circle of friends. But it didn't work for my friends, because they had their own roleplay going on while I was off raiding -- and when I was done raiding and ready to roleplay, they were still in the midst of roleplaying with others. I couldn't really fault them for that, nor could I expect them to drop their roleplay and come play with me at my convenience. That's just selfish.
- Make an alt. This actually turned out to be the most successful out of any tactic I'd tried. I rolled an alt on another server and roleplayed with that alt when I had spare time. I didn't tell people I was a raider, I simply roleplayed at my leisure, logged on when I wanted to roleplay, let my character sit in between when I was attending to real-life activities or raiding on my main server.
- Roleplay on a raiding main. I've tried, in varying degrees, to roleplay with my raiding main. I like the character, but the amount of roleplay I've found has been minimal at best. While I can run my roleplaying addon and let it be known I'm open to roleplay, very few people will go out of their way to say hello to a raider, regardless of whether or not they have a roleplaying description available.

And above everything else? Never, ever, ever be afraid to say hello.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 2)
LynMars Mar 4th 2012 2:29PM
I know plenty of people who do that. It's a little wonky with going back in weekly to kill bosses on the way to the end boss (a little easier when dealing with undead, elementals, or even demons!), but usually you can save the new RP for the newer content, or for new folks filling in spots. Or make believe it's new enemies, etc. Lots of ways to cover it.
I right now am saying IC that our raid is helping in the defense of Wyrmrest Temple during the Twilight Assault. Our group is casual, and slow (real life stuff hasn't helped much; there were breaks over the holidays) and we only do DS one night a week--the other is still Firelands to make legendaries and gear alts--but we're trucking along well enough. We have fun with light, silly RP before and during raid, some after, and through the rest of the week, both storyline stuff we make up, or day to day things, or server social events (participating and creating), and even in IC chat channels to keep in touch while farming or questing solo.
Cambro Mar 4th 2012 12:33PM
I'm a raider and an RPer. :) I'm in 2 RP guilds on my RP-PVP server. The Alliance guild is casual, light RP, and raids 2 nights a week, currently 6/8 on normal. The Horde guild is much more stringent on its RP and actually RPs anything that is said on screen during raids. They've cleared normal mode. I only raid with the Alliance guild, for about the same reason as I don't raid more or RP more: there is only so much time in the day, and you have to choose carefully what/how much you're going to do, or else you'll never get any real-life things done.
snarkygoldfish Mar 4th 2012 4:16PM
Caaaambroooo. You're RPing again?
I used to co-lead a Raiding / RP guild during Wrath. It was one of the most fun / stressful / awesome experiences in this game for me. The storylines my friends and I wove as our characters "progressed" through the Citadel -- breakneck missions the Crusade and the Alliance military entrusted to our characters...unorthodox strategies...it was amazing. No, our characters weren't the ones to actually defeat the big bads...but damn if we didn't help pave the way.
We found time for both. And I reallyreallyreally miss it sometimes. My 'main' is the toon I both RP and raid with when I still get the chance. I can't imagine it any other way. She has four years of history and experience behind her at this point. I guess I've been lucky to not experience what Anne has -- being chided for playing a fairly "powerful" character in terms of experience and development. Of course, in the end, I think it all depends in how that experience and knowledge manifests itself in RP and with the character's personality. My shaman still can't heal worth a damn...even if she's probably one of the most reckless and effective "lavawalkers" you'll ever encounter. ;)
The realm I'm on now is largely RP-PVP based. Alliance side, there is exactly one RP-PVE guild that raids, and while I heart and respect them as a former member, it was always a little disappointing that more wasn't done to weave the PVE-conflict of the moment into the guild's story or forge stronger storylines.
Hordeside? Most of the RPers I know and interact with are actually in pretty well-progressed non-RP guilds and raid several times a week. They had to choose between RP and Raiding guilds...but they still seem to maintain storylines pretty well.
It's all about time management and expectations.
Cambro Mar 4th 2012 10:28PM
In my mind it's difficult to RP during raid encounters, especially once you've cleared the place. For my main, it was a very big deal to have defeated the Lich King. On my screen, he was one of the band of heroes, part of a very elite group. Of course in reality it was thousands and thousands of players who defeated him (repeatedly), and in canon it was some unnamed group of heroes. Once you've killed all the bosses in Icecrown Citadel, how do you deal with them the next time you go through? Gone back in time? Another infestation with similar-looking bad guys? Ignore the bosses and pretend you're just cleaning up? In our guild meetings I say we're continuing to make progress in X, or we're leading a team in to X to clean out any remnants of the minions of X, but that's as far as I can go and not lose continuity, personally. The best I've been able to do beyond that in Cataclysm content is to stand in front of Ragnaros and complain loudly about dead things not staying dead, show him my level 60 legendary and yell at him asking if he remembers it. :)
Kaphik Mar 4th 2012 12:32PM
There's only a stigma attached to "raiding mains" because people don't treat that character as a RP character. There's nothing stopping you, especially now with transmog, from putting together a set of RP clothes, if you feel the need.
One of the best rogues I've ever raided with, who could have been in a top 100 guild easily if she wanted to, ran a roleplay guild and weekly tavern for years and managed to raid successfully.
Martin Mar 4th 2012 1:22PM
I can't imagine why roleplaying and raiding would have to be mutually exclusive.
I mean, I'm on a PVE server, and I don't roleplay, but I do consider myself in the role of my toon kicking ass and helping the aspects take out Deathwing when I raid. I'm playing out the role of the heroes of Azeroth, just as the game wants/expects me to. Why can't you?
Dea ex Machina Mar 4th 2012 9:33PM
Huh. I had no idea there was an anti-raiding prejudice among RPers. I thought the prejudice was all on the other end, because I -did- know that many raiders look down on Roleplayers as being "flaky," "weird," and not "real" or "serious" players. Possibly the RP-ers have gotten wary because of comments like that, and now there's a whole Jock versus Drama Club thing on both sides?
With regards to scheduling RP, and how your friends would get tangled up in other RP instead of coming to play with you and you "couldn't really fault them for that, nor... expect them to drop their roleplay and come play with (you) at (your) convenience..." Ummm... Why NOT? I mean, we schedule socializing all the time in real life, and interrupt other social activities in order to do so. "Whup, been great talking to you, but I need to hang up. I promised my Mom I'd call." "See you guys around later? I'm meeting a friend for drinks." "Gotta go, I have a date." Why is it unreasonable for your friends to tell their other RP partners "((Just so you know, I'm going to have to wrap up and scurry in about ten minutes. A friend's coming online and we have an RP date. ^_^))"
There are Roleplayers who schedule and organize large scale RP events. They NEED to set aside time to make it happen, and show up for it on time, or dozens of other people may be disappointed and angry at having wasted their time, JUST like a raid. Why is it any more unreasonable to do the same on a smaller scale? You have EVERY right to expect your 'friends' to drop walk-up RP for pre-arranged in-game meetings, and that is NOT selfish.