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3-03-2012 @ 6:58PM
No slam on you, Anne, but I found your article depressing. It's a shame people are so judgemental that you cannot roleplay on a toon who raids. It seems self-defeating for the WoW role-playing community to exclude players who actually play the game. Is it so outrageous to roleplay a character who has actually done something? It seems to me it would be really easy to justify having gear without making it out like you were the sole hero in the world, "Oh, I helped a bit at Wyrmrest Temple. You should have seen the size of those dragons. They were HUGE."
3-03-2012 @ 10:35PM
I still see the "Raiders can't be RPers" too mentality FROM CLASSIC WOW at times--because that's where it's still from, years and years later. It's caused issues when people wanted to schedule RP events during guild raid times--or got angry because we were doing for fun RP raids instead of a (honestly boring and non-event) weekly guild meeting.My solution is to be part of a guild (or guilds) that not only raids but also RPs. We only raid 2 nights a week, we RP before, a bit during, and after raids, we attend the server social events, we RP with each other and random people on other nights. If your guildmates can't be part of or supportive of all of your game activities, why are you there? Also, I know plenty of RPers in non-RP guilds that still get plenty of RP. My server, despite one or two old school hardliners, is very open and welcoming to Raiding RPers for the most part; our walk-up RP is too quiet to NOT be open to any potential RP!And here's an idea--wear other gear or RP clothing instead of raid tier all the time. What soldier goes to a bar in full uniform and field kit gear? Why would our characters? My priest has a huge assortment of dresses. My paladin may occasionally wear her armor, but usually goes to events in "civvies". There's a built-in outfitter now, use it for RP sets as well as raiding/pvp/dungeon/offspec sets!Being an RPer means being open to RP and promoting it and supporting it on the server. It has nothing to do with also being a PvPer or being a Raider. It's about being open, friendly, and IC when hanging out at the bank or AH, behind the Cathedral, or even at the raid itself with your pals.
3-04-2012 @ 2:12AM
Well, with transmogrification, it is not so hard to roleplay with high-end gears :) Just mog into greens, or something more symbolical, and presto :D
3-04-2012 @ 7:22AM
Thanks, LynMars.Although I see the aforementioned "raiders don't RP" mentality talked about quite a bit, I've never seen it really put into practice. Perhaps that's because I'm a part of a circle of RP'ers for whom raiding is a normal activity -- while other RP'ers might find it difficult/daunting to get into a raiding group without sacrificing something?We need to get out of the mindset that RP and raiding are mutually exclusive. I see this most often pushed forward by RP'ers who can't/don't raid (I remember one, specifically, who practically had a mental block against raiding since it would require them to abandon their "RP" character talent sets/gear). Particularly with the ability to transmog gear and the relative streamlining of the talent sets, it's extremely easy to "wear your RP gear" and have RP-style talents while still being competitive in a PvE sense. At this point, any RPer who falls back on the "I can't be a unique snowflake because of big bad raiding elitists" is just self-sabotaging.And of course, there are the RP'ers who are just afraid/distrustful of raiding because of the "hardc0re" mentality often attributed to people who raid. They are usually either genuinely shy and/or afraid of being ridiculed for mistakes, or, on the other hand, are resentful towards raiders for enjoying a different part of the game than them. If this is mostly targeted to naysayers on the RP side, it's because I've historically seen more push-back against raiding on the RP side, while raiders are either tolerant or disinterested in RP. I've been in PvE raiding guilds who, while not being RPers, had a policy of "respecting" RP, and I've been in PvE raiding guilds on non-RP servers who were genuinely amused/entertained by me introducing RP into raids (even starting to play along). I'm a part of the same RP/raiding group as LynMars and while there are always the naysayers, we have a nice group of RP'ers who also raid (and raiders who sometimes RP) and there's always fun IC chatter going on during raids. You sometimes have to look hard to find groups like ours because they don't usually need to recruit -- we have enough interest via word of mouth - so you have to just sort of "fall" into it. So that can sometimes give the impression that groups like ours don't exist, but in reality, they're there, just hard to find unless you're specifically looking.
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