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3-13-2012 @ 5:38PM
From Neth's post "The queue systems are a substitute for when you don’t have enough friends (or even enough friends online at the moment) to participate in that content."The thing is, as a few other people have pointed out, it doesn't function currently as a substitute.Let's say you formed a group on your own of guildies and went to the instance portal directly. This is playing with friends and getting out into the world. You have given up any chance at valor points since its not using the tool. You do not get the buff. Travel time will make it take a little longer. There is in fact a penalty to playing with people of your choosing. Part of this can be gotten around by just queueing in the tool with five people, but even then the out in the world aspect is lost. I'm not asking for the removal of the LFD tool. It's fantastic for what it is. Just give us a reason to do it without the tool. More valor for pre-made or portal using. More loot drops. Special achievements. Something. Anything.As for the LFR, my only complaint so far is that at times I've felt I've needed to get gear from there in order to progress in my normal mode raid, which has just lead to burnout. The valor reward is fine, and you're helping that in Mists by giving more ways to get valor, but the gear upgrade for people in normal Firelands gear feels a bit much. I'd rather LFR has the same ilvl gear as the previous normal raid, so that it's less useful for those up to date with normal raiding, while still providing a good way to catch up.
3-13-2012 @ 11:01PM
You're doing it wrong. You group up with your 4 other friends, THEN you hit the tool. It still teleports you to the dungeon, and you get your valor.
3-14-2012 @ 5:38AM
As g2 says, you form your group with 4 friends then hit the LFD and you get a Valor reward.Unless you're somehow arguing that people should get awarded VP for simply taking the effort to fly to an instance portal? In which case, I'd point out that flying is not 'getting out into the world', as you're bypassing everything between you and your destination - it might as well be a very slow teleport.
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