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3-16-2012 @ 11:03AM
Wasn’t Pandaria part of the one big continent before the sundering? Does this mean that there are probably groups of Elves and Trolls living there in isolation, with cultures that are vastly different from the normal Elves and Trolls?
3-16-2012 @ 11:36AM
The yak-style Tauren NPCs in one of the new Pandaria shots confirms that at least one race has long-lost cousins waiting on Pandaria.
3-16-2012 @ 11:42AM
Considering yesterday's screenshot with the tauren-like being, that would actually make sense... maybe some of the other races travelled to Pandaria back then, and maybe they have developed differently... I remember that the dwarfs described in the WOTA-novels were much more like their proto-form (the earthen) and less than modern dwarfs, so I wouldnt be surprised if we'd see some other Azerothian races there too. Then again, I dont know if that would really make sense, because so far, we have hardly ANYTHING about pandas in Kalimdor or EK... if there was trade going on back then, or if some of the races visited Pandaria, it's highly unlikely that there are no written records, no hint at all, no archeological artifacts hinting at the Pandaren, unless whoever got to Pandaria was absolutely forbidden to leave or forbidden to talk/write about it after his/her return, or any tracks were erased by the Pandas.Thats actually one thing that bothers me a tiny bit there... if Pandas are "established in lore", why are there no signs at all, other than Genn's keg-pieces or whatever they are? No records, no hints, no stories. Because it makes you wonder whether the Mists covering Pandaria actually changed something, because there are no signs of them from before the "disappearance" of Pandaria to be found anyway. Sure, Blizz might have tried to avoid any premature hint at the Pandas being added to the game, but if there was any contact between any of the other races and Pandaren before the Sundering, its weird there are no stories or memories of it. Even if its been 10.000 years, the elfs should remember, and I dont know if "that continent that used to be there" would be so totally forgotten...Just rambling, sorry for the wall of text =)
3-16-2012 @ 11:44AM
Possibly, but not necessarily. In particular, I don't think we'll run across a splinter group of elves because they were pretty much one cohesive society before the sundering, unlike Trolls and Tauren who were much more tribal, nomadic, and spread out across the supercontinent. One of the recent screenshots pretty much confirms Tauren-like creatures, and the map shown at Blizzcon includes an island off the north coast called Zandalari Isle, which certainly sounds like a good place to find trolls, although the Zandalari aren't exactly a new variety of Troll since they've been in the game since Vanilla.
3-16-2012 @ 11:49AM
If you take a look at the Mists map (Mists Blizzcon, on my phone or I'd get a full link), there's a small island near the top of the continent with teeny-tiny writing that says "Zandalari" (or similar, again I'm on my phone and can't check). So yes, I'd say trolls will be making an appearance. And from the butt-whuppin we gave them in 4.1 I think they won't be friendly...
3-16-2012 @ 11:52AM
According to the available lore on Pandaria, no, Pandaria was never part of super-continent Kalimdor. When the Night Elves were conquering Kalimdor and becoming magical crack addicts, the Emperor of Pandaria recalled his envoys (the Night Elves and Pandaren were allies at the time probably via the Furbolg but there is nothing saying so one way or the other) and went the way of Gilneas. Then, when the earth started shaking a few decades later the last Emperor sealed the island off to protect it, but not before a group of Pandaren said good-bye and took a multi-millenia long trip around the seas on a sea-turtle. A few Pandaren have emerged from the Mists or the turtle - not sure where Chen comes from - and interacted with the current world from secret enclaves on both continents.This information was obtained without using the RPG books and should, therefore, be somewhat close to canon. It comes from wowpedia and was scrapped together based on Warcraft III, interviews with Samwise and Metzen, and Blizzcon last year. However, I must admit it is likely to change (or be clarified) with new focus on the continent of Pandaria.
3-16-2012 @ 12:58PM
Of course there were Pandaren in EK and Kalimdor after the Sundering. But they all starved to death due to a lack of bamboo.
3-16-2012 @ 6:11PM
On Twitter yesterday (or was it the day before?) Dave Kosak, the lead quest designer, stated that Pandaria was sealed off before Cenarius started teaching Druidism to the Night Elves. What signifies the start of those teachings? Malfurion was a Night Elf and was taught Druidism prior to the Sundering, so that could count. More likely it refers to teaching the race as a whole, which occured post-Sundering.So that doesn't help the question much....
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