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3-19-2012 @ 8:21AM
Metzen has a way of making me so excited for future content without actually saying anything enlightening, it drives me crazy. Having said that, his observation that die hard "Garrosh Must Die" Horde players had somewhat turned into "what? Killing my Warchief? But.. Why?" supporters was interesting and amusing. It's easy to see how. From the quests in Stonetalon to the grand entrance to Twilight Highlands (What kind of madman.... A WINNER!) my own viewpoint has changed. While he was incredibly over bearing and warmongering before I came to enjoy his style of total warfare just as the Orcs had, I'llbe just as happy to lead the charge against him when his time has come.
3-19-2012 @ 9:01AM
He never grew on me and I'm happy we get to kill him.Now, if only we could get rid of Sylvanas...
3-19-2012 @ 9:50AM
I haven't rerolled a toon all expansion, with the exception of a dk. I did not go back revisit all the noob zones. I'm not interested in low level questing anymore.Garrosh has done nothing redeeming that I have seen. Glad hes dying.
3-19-2012 @ 10:48AM
@gewalt: And you know what? That is your own damn fault. Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen or that the character is irredeemable/uninteresting/should die.I didn't play Warcraft III. That doesn't mean I don't know what happened in it and can't feel sad that WoW's Tyrande isn't THAT Tyrande.All you do when you say that is admit your own ignorance and bigotry.Personally, as someone who has been on Garrosh's side since the beginning I'll be incredibly sad to see him leave, and without a compelling reason will not be participating in any move against him (that being said, a good enough reason would move me to action just to see the story).What I love is all the RP fodder for my characters this will give. My belf with the chip on her shoulder against the Alliance is going to find herself at a tipping point one way or another, I can see it.I'm also super excited for Varian and how he's going to change. You can feel it already at some of the events leading up to Highlands, and more of him really coming into his own *cough*andgettingJaina*cough* will be fantastic to watch.
3-19-2012 @ 11:33AM
I'll be happy with the story arc if we Hordies get to remove Garrosh. If the Alliance blasts its way into Orgrimmar and does it I'll be unhappy. If the Alliance blasts its way into Orgrimmar and does it *with scripted assistance from me that I have no choice about* I'll be pissed.I'd also rather not have Thrally Sue back - he was great as Warchief but even I'm sick of him after Cataclysm and I didn't even have an active subscription for most of the expansion. Somewhat related note: I wasn't planning on keeping my Scroll of Rez account active after the 30 days I paid so my son could get a mount, but the return of perma-tree has enticed me to possibly stick around. I still have my concerns about Mists' strategic direction, but tactically it definitely seems like the developers have taken the lessons of Cata's shortcomings to heart. Kudos.
3-19-2012 @ 12:50PM
I used to be a total Garrosh hater, now I'm only mostly a hater. Garrosh suddenly coming out of nowhere and challenging Thrall for the warchief title. I honestly had no idea who he was until someone mentioned he was in Garadar and it hit me: he's that loser of an orc that cried into the fire as I saved his damn people for him! And now he comes out of left field, going from mopey doom and gloom to rip-roaren' ready to fight? Huh? He was mildly annoying in wrath, still didn't like him. The short story was fantastic, that made me rethink the character. The quests in cataclysm were kinda meh, honestly, I saw what they were trying to do with him, but it felt forced. His whole damn story has felt forced to me, like blizz REALLY wanted us to like him and think he was this amazing character and cheer him on.But to me, he's still that pathetic orc blubbering into a fire while I saved the Mag'har from the ogres. I will be first in line to shove my sword through his chest.
3-19-2012 @ 12:58PM
Yep, I agree with you Shuckles, for me Garrosh has gone from hated to loved. I hope he at least goes down in style.
3-19-2012 @ 1:49PM
@Eternauta ...You leave my dark lady alone!
3-19-2012 @ 3:45PM
Sylvanas kicks butt. I love her. I'd like to see her interact with Vereesa, though!
3-19-2012 @ 4:11PM
I can get why people don't like Sylvannas from a moral standpoint, but why would anyone want her killed off and completely removed from the game? She's such an interesting and dynamic character.Every time someone calls for them killing off an interesting or controversial character, it's effectively saying "I want the game to get a little bit more boring."
3-19-2012 @ 5:13PM
What's interesting to me is that while Garrosh feels Sylvanas and her kind are unnatural, I think if he really looked at her style of warfare that they would get along great. I think that is part of what Cromush likes about her is the total warfare aspect.This also makes me wonder where Sylvanas will go. If Garrosh loses his cool and the honor he has spent all expansion trying to earn/learn and basically becomes a raid boss, then what -does- this mean for Sylvanas? She won't really fit in much anymore except as a war machine, and I'm sure even she is sick of seeing the outcome of the plague, regardless of how justified it is given the war effort.
3-20-2012 @ 12:22AM
Raises hand...I've loved Garrosh from the beginning and was super happy they made him Warchief. The entire reason I love the Horde and particularly the Orcs is because they are both smart and brutish. Everything about Orcs screams war, and this is fucking Warcraft after all!You guys can hate on Garrosh all you want but he brought the war back to warcraft.
3-28-2012 @ 10:50AM
@Eternauta - Get rid of Sylvannas!? MORE LIKE, MAKE HER THE LEADER OF THE HORDE! Ok, so not really, but still..... She was the FIRST to break from the Lich King, she has a strength of will that no other Scourge possessed or possesses now. For that reason alone, Thrall should invite an emissary to stand in Org with him.Now, Thrall coming back? I love Thrall! PERIOD. But, I don't want Thrall back. I want something new to happen to my beloved Horde, and I'm not sure Thrall can put his time as Earth Shaman Leader Guy to rest. I don't mind that he sought more peaceful ways of dealing with problems than Garrosh, but I don't want to have to beg his permission every time we need to kick some Alliance butt. In the past, that was his MO, try to find a peaceful way of getting what we need, regardless of how desperate we are to have it. I don't care for that, and that's what I'm afraid of.
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