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3-19-2012 @ 8:48PM
Guess I'll just toss my hat in here, long-winded as it may be.In terms of how this will affect the "HORDE/ALLIANCE BIAS" I see no down side to deposing Hellscream. In terms of character development, Garrosh is about as loveable as a cuddly cactus. I mean, by that seemingly Alliance biased comment, that he is not in any way a dynamic character. In fact, he is the epitome of static character. His main hand macguffin is sheer and utter dominance, by any means necessary. Yes, we got a nice bit of insight into the madness behind the man --err, Orc-- with the short story and his reaction to the genocide in the Stonetallon Mountains, but character development is dead to him. He is a terrible leader, running the undead/blood elves out of Orgrimmar, and pushing the Trolls/Goblins into the darkest corner of the city. Ruling with a completely iron fist, he is equatable to that most horrid of leaders: a tyrant.On the other hand, I'd be damned to the half star if I didn't comment on just how screwed up Varian is. Yes, it's a fact, Varian is ruthless with a capital R. He single-handedly killed anything that moved as Lo'Gosh, and he showed just how absolutely evil he can be when Bolvar was killed. But, he is ruthless with a cause. Many people are not familiar with how much amazing content there is to his character through the comics/short stories/Wolfheart, namely just how much he has changed along the way. Having had the majority of his family murdered, by human and Orc alike, Varian has reason to be angry. Had the orcs not killed his father, he would not have had to hire the Mason's guild to rebuild Stormwind, in turn preventing the eventual murder of his wife, and his descent into madness/depression. By the time Lady Prestor kidnaps him, he, more or less, has nothing else to lose, eventually leading to his frenzied escape and release of the rage inside him when he beats the knickers off of a croclysk with a stick. When he is enslaved in the Orgrimmar Arena, he has completely forgotten he was king, a'la Lo'Gosh.By the time Varian gets back to Stormwind, he's gone through major transformations, coming to terms with the beast, no pun intended, inside him. He proudly reclaims his throne, beats the fecal deposits out of Onyxia for kidnapping his son, and becomes one whole being again in a plot line almost as convoluted as the Doctor Who continuity, and being a better person for it. Is he still a monster on the inside? Most definitely. Does that mean he cannot change? Not in the slightest. Metzen hinted at the extended amount of interaction we'll have with him in MoP, and that leaves tons of areas for his character to explain.As to motivation behind assaulting Orgrimmar, we cannot tell who is going to kill who, and for why. More than likely, it is in retaliation for the destruction of Theramore and the attempted murder of Jaina, leading to the Trials of the King, and a rallying of the Alliance morale. Just to clarify, Varian does not hate the orcs. He got over that little tidbit when he let Varok recover his son's body at Icecrown. Hell, he even tolerated Garona after he tried to assassinate him. Lo'Gosh is the one who holds resentment for the Horde, and Varian has, to a great extent, controlled that beast with him, as we saw in Wolfheart. Something will drive Garrosh to commit a large scale attack on Theramore, be it madness, glory lust, or forces unknown -hackcougholdgodsortheshaorsomeothermacguffincoughhack- and Vol'Jin/Bairne/Lor'Themar/or any combination of them will appear at the end of the Trials of the King questline and seek a "temporary" alliance, acknowledging just how screwed up Garrosh is. They will combine forces outside Durotar, charge in, and head straight for Garrosh. Varian does not want to kill the orcs; he just wants Garrosh.And on the whole? That's fine! Varian doesn't hate the Orcs, Tauren, Trolls, Goblin, or the Blood Elves, and nor does the rest of the Alliance leadership. As for the Undead...well, I'd rather not talk about them. Garrosh is a tyrant of the highest caliber. His quests for a powerful Horde aren't a bad thing; it's the way he went about doing so. He never earned the title of Warchief, he nearly lost his fight with Thrall, he pushes an agenda of selective racism within the Horde, and he wants to see the destruction of any opposition through total war and endless bloodshed. The Horde deserve better than him, and he deserves what fate comes upon his shoulders. As for who will replace him? Saurfang, Vol'Jin, or Bairne are the three toppies, even if Saurfang is older than the friggin' Well of Eternity *chuckle*. Thrall would never take the mantle back, even if they begged him. He is Green Jesus now, after all. He can't take sides.
3-19-2012 @ 8:55PM
Nope, the Warchief HAS to be an orc point. blank. period.
3-19-2012 @ 8:59PM
There is a possibility otherwise, but I could understand that kind of limitation. Rexarr would make a pretty damn good Warchief. In retrospect, imagine if Chen Stormstout popped in and becomes Warchief? Pure panda-monium, I say.
3-21-2012 @ 9:22AM
There is zero reason other tahn Blizz loves the Alliance that dispoing Gorrash isn't a completly interal affair(that means Horde only). As for not winning Warchief a case could be made that he was about to defeat Thrall and did defeat Cairne, who knew going in only one would walk out, then condemned Magna Grimtotem for robbing him of a true victory over a worthy opponent. The funniest thing you said was that Blizz would have Lor'Themar do anything other than stand in SMC. By the way the only 2 races that have never been explained why they are in thier factions Foresaken and Blood Elves, closest BE ever got was Sylvannas used to be a BE and looks like us the Human line we swore alligence to is dead and the Horde needs a pretty race. The Foresaken even more loose connection damn what do we do we have 4 Ally races and only 3 Horde well the Undead would be cool to play and wer need Horde in EK anyway so taht works. Fact Alliance blizz favorite. Horde if we have time and if our beloved Ally players want something about the Horde "fixed" we'll do it!
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