Amen Lipstick.

the guild i run just did 4/8 reg 10 man last week, and all of us felt accomplished. why? well this is the third week of us trying, and most people have never stepped foot in DS, not even in the RF DS version. our first attempt we only downed 1 boss in about 3 hours, and it was brutal on us. but in the second week we got 2 down, and the third we managed 4! i'm sure the buff had something to do with it, but for a guild who went through a change in leadership with many players either leaving the guild or game completely, i feel we've come a long way and have finally shown our results. our goal isnt getting heroics down because we know we wont have the time to get there(we only raid one night a week), but if we can somehow manage to get to Madness and clear it, then it'll be a sure victory for us, even with the buff :)

I can see striving to down a boss pre-nerf (whether the nerf is toggled or not) and I can even see being upset if that first nerf comes through with little warning, but you have a point. Once a boss is nerfed who cares to what extent? No one is going to boast that they killed Deathwing at a 10% rather than a 15%. On a side note I think it might be a good idea for Blizzard to stagger the nerfs for Normal and Heroic. That way when guilds see Normal get the nerf they know to step up their game before the next patch. It is conceivable to me that there are Heroic-capable guilds that can progress, just very slowly. At any rate, it may cut down on the complaining.