The surreal concept of neutrality in Warcraft

The Argent Crusade is just one of the neutral factions in WoW, along with the Cenarion Circle, the Shattered Sun Offensive, the Earthen Ring and many others. Chris Metzen spoke about the Argent Crusade and the concept of neutral factions in our Mists of Pandaria press event interview, citing the Argent Crusade as one of the neutral factions that just rang true, whereas the Shattered Sun Offensive simply didn't feel quite as emotional.
But here's the thing -- the Argent Crusade, while being very active in Wrath, is hardly doing anything at all in the Western Plaguelands. There's a fight for Andorhal going on on the Crusade's doorstep, but they aren't stepping in. The Forsaken -- members of the Horde -- are actively seeking out activities that look suspiciously like Scourge activity, even going so far as to recruit the val'kyr, former servants of Arthas.
So ... what gives?

One of the statements made in the article that really rang true was that nearly every neutral faction in WoW has acted in a vacuum. While there are two notable exceptions to that rule -- the Ebon Blade, which promptly dissolved to its various factions' sides at the end of Wrath, and the Zandalar, who once befriended us in order to take down Hakkar and now seek to rebuild the troll empires of old -- other neutral factions stand out like sore thumbs, particularly in the face of Cataclysm faction conflict and even more upcoming faction conflict in Mists.
The Cenarion Circle is led by the night elves, and one of its more notable leaders is Malfurion Stormrage. Malfurion works quite happily with both Horde and Alliance in Hyjal, seeking to reclaim the burned peaks and protect the Well of Eternity. Yet in Ashenvale, the fighting between Alliance and Horde has reached a fever pitch, with Horde windriders openly attacking Astranaar, Maestra's Post, and Silverwind Refuge. In Stonetalon Peak, the Horde detonated a massive bomb, wiping out the druid training area, Thal'darah Grove. The list goes on and on, here. The amount of atrocities committed against the night elves are absolutely astounding.

Neutral factions are just an odd concept when you think about it, especially when they involve faction leaders. It's slightly more understandable with Tirion Fordring, who befriended Eitrigg in the novel Of Blood and Honor by Chris Metzen. Tirion understands that some orcs can be honorable creatures -- and he's willing to prove his point by sacrificing his position in the Alliance to uphold his moral standards. So perhaps he'd be willing to look the other way where the orcs are concerned -- but his steadfast ignoring of the val'kyr's presence is more than a little surreal, given how valiantly he fought in Wrath.
Is this simply a case where gameplay and design trumps story? Is there a way to present a dynamic neutral faction and keep them dynamic? It would be odd to see a formerly neutral faction choose a side, but given the amount of faction conflict arising in Mists, maybe it's time we actually see it happen.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
the.brentanelson Mar 21st 2012 12:24PM
I think neutral factions should be expressed more as temporary treaties and alliances. Rather than having the Argent Crusade still around attempting to continue its existence, it would have made more since for the Crusade to be a momentary agreement between the Horde, Alliance, and the Argent Dawn in light of the massive treat that was the Lich King. With the Lich King destroyed, the agreement is ended and the Alliance and Horde can go back to destroying each other.
Marcosius Mar 21st 2012 3:48PM
The simple answer here is, that player characters are unnamed adventurers that themselves are (mostly) neutral. While yes, they might represent a horde / alliance race, that doesn't mean they swear undying allegiance to their faction, or even their race. That is how I see it and even remember hearing PC's explained in lore.
Murdertime Mar 21st 2012 6:28PM
This. In game terms, your character isn't Garrosh's best friend or Wrynn's strong right hand. Your guy is Calder Grey or Linken or Nat Pagle. You are one of Azeroth's wandering mercenary trouble makers who occasionally signs up with the army.
vegetto375 Mar 21st 2012 12:26PM
"Malfurion Stormrage, co-leader of the Cenarion Circle and co-leader of the night elves, doesn't seem to blink an eye. He doesn't apparently care about any of this"
So this is my biggest gripe with Malfurion as a Character. He should in no way be in any kind of leadership position when it comes to NE matters. He isn't an alliance leader, he is a neutral faction leader, yet they are building him to be the co-ruler of the NE, and in some cases it almost seems like he is detroning Tyrande.
One of the most out of place scenes in WoW occurs in the quest line that you help Agra save Thrall. At the end of theof the quest-line when Thrall and Agra get hitch you see more people have join the celebration and one in particular still haunts me to ask "What is she doing there?". That one person is Tyrande. Why is Tyrande there at all? Is she there to support Malfurion in the joining of the Cenartion Circle and the Earthern Ring? I mean here is one prime example of Malfurion character not being defined. Did he drag Tyrande there or did she go there on her own? Surely she must resent Thrall who put Garosh in charge, who is the person killing her people yet Malfurion doesn't mind.
Neutral factions should either go away or be in noway aligned to any Alliance/Horde faction. Like Anne sugest the only way for these groups to survive would be for them to be dynamic, to have a purpose after their goals have been met/satisfied, the Argent Crusade while having a clear oppourtinity to do some work just when in and settle down leaving everything they stand behind.
brinster360 Mar 22nd 2012 2:15AM
The reason she was there is because Tyrande fought alongside Thrall at the Battle for Mt. Hyjal. And if im not mistaken, in Stormrage, Thrall attended Her wedding to Malfurion.
v Mar 21st 2012 12:31PM
I was just leveling an alt through Borean Tundra today and I thought that the Kalu'ak make a pretty decent neutral faction. They're getting screwed on all sides in Northrend, but not by the Horde or the Alliance. As they don't have a horse in that race, why would they even want to pick a side and make more enemies, when they could have the support of both? Neutral factions like them (Therazane, etc.) seem natural, while I'd agree that plucking groups from a faction (Dalaran, Cenarion Circle, Argent Crusade, etc.) and making them neutral makes for a bit of a mess.
L_fetcu Mar 21st 2012 12:32PM
When I read this article one thing came to my mind: an old saying in my language which roughly translates "Make friends with the devil until you cross the bridge..." It would be a interesting turn of events if neutrals would start picking sides. Especially since Alliance and Horde alike will join forces (?) to down the Horde Warchief.
I like unexpected twists and turns
omedon666 Mar 21st 2012 1:35PM
Please share the non-translated phrase, because that translated idea is awesome!
L_fetcu Mar 22nd 2012 4:21AM
The original saying in my language is
"Fa-te frate cu dracul pana treci podul"... I dunno if it helps you very much.
And I know.. my language looks/sounds like elvish :))
Wallahalla Mar 21st 2012 12:35PM
I most agree with the last statement, especially when it comes to the Argent Crusade. "Keeping them dynamic" isn't really important, they could have gone the way of the Ebon Blade, but that probably would have seemed strange, even to the non RP player. I really like neutral factions. They're (sometimes) a bastion of sanity and reason that we can relate to when you have nothing but the Horde and Alliance trying to smash each others faces in. I'd say sometimes, the neutral faction is the one some of us wish we could join.
My ways of rationalizing the inaction of some of the faction leaders is that 1) the world is huge... well it should be. I'm pretty sure it takes more than 15 min to fly from Darkshore to Tanaris in "real" Azeroth. So maybe some of the things happening "under" so-and-so's nose are a bit farther off than we realize. I could be wrong, but that's just how I understand it. 2) There are a lot of things going on in Azeroth that these leaders have to deal with. Yea they sit in their castles or throne rooms all day, but if Azeroth levels of bat-shit-insanity were happening in the real world, leaders would have absolutely no idea what to address first. So I cut them a little slack because I assume they have a lot on their plate.
Kitairra Mar 21st 2012 12:37PM
I despise both Tyrande and Malfurion equally for just this reason alone.As I play Alliance, I just dont understand their non-action in Astranaar. As a Night Elf,it pains me to go through that zone and see firsthand the destruction of my homeland,and my people.And to see Malfurion and his "trophy wife" do nothing as the horde cuts down the trees sickens me,which is sad,considering Tyrande WAS a hellion in WCIII,and now shes just wallpaper in Malfurion's great plan.(and yes,i realize this isnt real....please just go with it,ok?)
And really,what the night elves need is a leader,ANYONE,other than those two,to actually lead.I havealways said that my real leader,the one i would die for if given the choice,would be Jaina Proudmoore.A HUMAN!! At least Jaina has an opinion and not just a mouthpiece for Varian. Yeah,I went there!!
vegetto375 Mar 21st 2012 12:57PM
Someone in my opinion who would be a good fit for NE leader would be Kur'thalos Ravencrest YEA I know he is dead, but blizz did say if we wanted someone resurrected would woudl it be be; Him). Talk about a NE who cared about NE's and he wasn't afraid to get his hands dirty to get the job done. If they can ressurect him ad put him in a position of powe, h yea! Orcs beware hell will be grought upon you.
Eternauta Mar 21st 2012 4:59PM
@Kitairra:
Have you read Wolfheart?
Tyrande was near the frontlines guiding her people (with some help from Elune) when Garrosh's forces invaded (and wounded her arm)
Xantenise Mar 21st 2012 10:41PM
Ahh, WCIII...
If WoW was written with WCIII characterisation in mind, then Malfurion would have forbidden Tyrande from fighting the Horde in Ashenvale.
And Tyrande would have gone OH HELL NO, marched straight into Astranaar, fucked the Horde's shit up and flipped Malfurion off from atop a pile of arrow-ridden corpses.
RIP WCIII Tyrande.
Shammwich Mar 21st 2012 12:37PM
I actually had this conversation with my wife the other day. Some neutral factions are a bit of a joke right now - no one can tell me that if it was real life that the cenarion circle and argent crusade would not be at war with the horde right now. Granted, their main beef would be with the orcs/goblins and undead respectively, but it takes quite a bit of suspended disbelief to make it through some quest zones atm. Slightly off topic, honestly what are blood elves and tauren doing in the horde right now anyhow? They'd be more of a fit in the alliance from where I stand.
Ata Mar 21st 2012 1:38PM
The Tauren are reeling from the Alliance destruction of Camp Taurjo and the innocents that were slaughtered there along with how the Alliance are carving a road through the Barrens to reinforce Ashenvale, coming from a city that once was, while not neutral, once the home of a woman who was a lot friendlier to the Horde than most humans. You know how Alliance players rage about Southshore? Yeah, Taurjo's a huge rage for Horde players, especially since Taurjo was a hunting camp just outside of their homeland where they felt safe, while Southshore was a holdout on the edge of enemy territory and kinda had to expect that sometime. The Tauren are also dealing with the Grimtotem, the group lead by the woman who poisoned Garrosh' axe so that Cairne died, allying with the Alliance in Stonetallon and creating havoc there while they also are taking advantage of the destruction of Thousand Needles and the Tauren settlement there. Oh, and there's Dwarves digging in their ancestral lands in Southern Barrens, too.
Plenty of reason for the Tauren to -not- ally with the Alliance.
The Blood Elves have the interesting twist where it seems pretty clear that they'd love to get together with their High Elven bretheren, but there's the itty bitty problem of how they were screwed in the first place by the Alliance general treating Kael'thas, their -freakin prince-, as cannon fodder and worthless to the point that in order to -not die-, he had to ally with the Naga, which was instant death sentence to this jerk of a general. The Alliance didn't extend their hand after Arthas rampaged through their home and destroyed the Sunwell (which was the moment when High Elf and Blood Elf split), the High Elves condemned them for giving in to their crippling withdrawal from the Sunwell's energies and using Fel energy instead, and the only person who reached out to them after it all was their former Ranger High General, Sylvanas Windrunner, a former elf who reached out to her people with assistance and care, and worked damn hard to get the Blood Elves into the Horde...and without her and the Horde the Blood Elves full realize they would have fallen to the continued Scourge threat in their lands.
They've less obvious reason for wanting to stay with the Horde vs jumping to the Alliance, but their alliance with the Horde is strong, and Sylvanas continues to assist her former people. The most that the Blood Elves seem to want to do right now is get back on their feet and survive, and play the political handwaving dance that is finding some sort of peace with the High Elves, facilitated by allowing them to also visit the Sunwell. They're -almost- like a definition of North Korea and South Korea...lots of families were split between the two countries and now are kept apart by political differences with only a few points of 'safe' crossover. Go sit in front of Zul'Aman in the Ghostlands and watch the little rp scene between Veressa Windrunner, Haldruon Brightwing and Vol'jin for a bit of a feel of that 'uncertainty'. (Key is to realize that Lor'themar could have sent a military force rather than a nice polite 'I disapprove of this' letter, sticking to his alliance with the Horde by the letter rather than full action)
Artificial Mar 21st 2012 1:58PM
You very seriously misunderstand elves and tauren if you think either would be a good fit for the Alliance. I will grant it doesn't make much sense for the elves to be in the Horde either, although the Tauren are naturals for it (indeed, should probably lead it -- they best exemplify what the Horde is all about at heart).
vocenoctum Mar 21st 2012 4:25PM
Camp Tarajo was a camp that trained hunters that were harassing Alliance forces that were building a road to resupply the night elves that are being invaded by the Horde (which includes Tauren).
It's an old arguement, but comparing it to Southshore (a long standing settlement that is part of a human kingdom that has stood for centuries) or Gilneas (a long standing human nation) that had the misfortune of having land that the Forsaken/Horde wanted, is a bit off-base.
Outside of that, the Trolls and the Tauren really only fit as part of Thrall's Horde Idea. But no changing that now (anymore than having the blood elves, night elves, tauren, trolls and worgen forming a faction to face off against the dwarf, gnome, human, orc, goblins), so it's no big deal.
Shammwich Mar 21st 2012 4:47PM
I understand that the elves have had a bit of a rough ride with humans before, but this conversation would essentially be moot if Anduin Lothar was still alive or had had children as the elves owed allegiance to the Arathi bloodline, quite simply they would never have left the alliance just based on that. Additionally, at the end of the Burning Crusade, it is Velen, not any member of the horde, who restores the sunwell for the Blood Elves, thus halting their slow descent into corruption from using fel energies.
As for the Tauren, camp taurajo was not meant to play out the exact way it did, but beyond that it was not the horde that helped Baine recapture and secure Thunder Bluff after his father's death (at the hands of Garrosh - yeah his weapon was poisoned but regardless it was a duel to the death) it was Jaina, not to mention the connection made between Baine and Anduin Wrynn while the whole scenario transpired. It's hard not to see the horde right now as a weak coalition of semi-willing members, it would not take much at this point in my opinion to really fracture the horde.
slythwolf Mar 21st 2012 5:32PM
The Blood Elves did not "leave" the Alliance. They were basically kicked out. The events that precipitated the split are not really "in the past" to them, either--we're talking about events from about 15 years ago in-game, with a group of people who live to be over 350 years old.