Does Garrosh Hellscream deserve to die?

Likely one of the most contentious things to come out of the Mists of Pandaria press event was the news that we do indeed have a final boss for the expansion -- and it's the current leader of the Horde, Garrosh Hellscream. Garrosh has been a figure in lore since The Burning Crusade led Horde players to Nagrand and introduced the younger Hellscream, an orc who had been raised thinking his father was the reason the orc race had been through so much suffering. This depressed him to the point that we players actually stepped up and took care of many of the problems surrounding the Mag'har village in an attempt to cheer him up.
But his true salvation came in the form of Warchief Thrall, who was not only gratified to find his grandmother alive and the name his mother and father intended for him, but happy to find the living descendant of one of his closest friends as well. It was Thrall's words that finally broke the stupor of shame and depression that Garrosh had been living with for his entire life. And it was Thrall who took Hellscream under his wing, away from Garadar and to a land he'd never before set eyes upon: Azeroth.
But his true salvation came in the form of Warchief Thrall, who was not only gratified to find his grandmother alive and the name his mother and father intended for him, but happy to find the living descendant of one of his closest friends as well. It was Thrall's words that finally broke the stupor of shame and depression that Garrosh had been living with for his entire life. And it was Thrall who took Hellscream under his wing, away from Garadar and to a land he'd never before set eyes upon: Azeroth.

What Gauss asks is a question many are asking: Why put in so much development over time simply to kill off a lore character who has been shown growing and learning from his errors? Is Garrosh simply being set up to be a scapegoat? And when you look at the current story that Garrosh has been handed to play out, it does seem as though he's been making progress, even if that progress is slow. To be perfectly honest, Garrosh Hellscream is one of the few characters in World of Warcraft who has seen major development beyond the span of one expansion. He's traveled from his hopelessness in Nagrand, an impossible low, to his current seat as Warchief of the Horde, an almost impossible high.
The problem with making assumptions like these, however, is that there is a gigantic chunk of information missing. We've been given the first three major chapters in Garrosh's progression, and we've been given a hint at how the fourth and presumably final chapter will end. But what happens in that fourth chapter is a mystery -- and it's one that is going to span the full length of yet another expansion and a patch or two in between, as well.

And I don't think anyone can really predict what we'll see that Warchief do when presented with a brand new continent that may or may not contain some sort of valuable resources that could be used to further the Horde's foothold on Azeroth. That missing chapter is apt to be some wholly remarkable storytelling -- and though I'm not sure where I stand on the issue of Garrosh's demise, I know that stepping into Pandaria is apt to be another fascinating chapter in that tale.
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Reader Comments (Page 6 of 11)
Philster043 Mar 23rd 2012 2:36PM
Lor'themor Theron.
I just imagined a silly fantasy where when Garrosh is about to be triumphant over the raid, and Lor'themor Theron jumps out of the shadows from behind and delivers the death blow to Garrosh.
"FORGET ABOUT ME DID YOU!"
And everybody is like... WHO the heck are you?
icepyro Mar 23rd 2012 4:03PM
I read that post and think "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"
That's how silly it is.
Dreyja Mar 23rd 2012 4:09PM
@Philster043 - If someone funny doesn't make that into a Machinima, it will be a sin against comedy! XD
Killik Mar 23rd 2012 2:34PM
In a funny kind of way, a huge chunk of WoW has been the story of Garrosh Hellscream. Far more so than Thrall.
He began as a whiny emo kid in Nagrand and climbed to become Warchief of the entire Horde. When his downfall comes, I hope they give him the sympathetic send-off he deserves.
Aranyszin Mar 23rd 2012 2:35PM
I think the author is missing a very salient point from a purely literary standpoint with regard to Garrosh: compelling storytelling often involves a tragic downfall of a well-developed character. The premise of the article seems to be that Garrosh should not be killed off because we've seen him grow and progress over the course of several expansions. In my humble opinion, that development and growth is what makes his reversal and ultimate downfall so compelling. Are we truly expected to become invested in dispatching only underdeveloped "red shirts"?
Blizzard has done a lot of things right and a lot of things wrong over the course of the Warcraft franchise - but one of the things that they (generally) get right is providing a compelling story. Seeing Garrosh grow, obtain depth and ultimately nevertheless fail is actually pretty realistic. Frankly, I think it's a stroke of genius.
John Mar 23rd 2012 2:52PM
Case in point (THPOILER ALERT!!):
Eddard Stark
Muse Mar 23rd 2012 2:35PM
Of course he deserves to die. He's the military commander of a hostile enemy force. From an Alliance perspective, there's no reason NOT to kill him.
Joakim Mar 23rd 2012 2:38PM
With Garrosh dead and a new wonderful military detente between Horde and Alliance, I can see the next expansion slug line:
"A new threat is has come to Azeroth.
Peace."
Shadda Mar 23rd 2012 2:39PM
He has wreaked havoc on our ancient forests and murdered our children. His negligence has allowed the forsaken spawn of Highborne traitors to massacre our allies and turn them into undead abominations. By the Goddess's guiding light, we will bring him to justice: a shadowy glaive and a forgotten grave will be his end.
~Sentinel Shadda Starsong
As difficult as it is to explain from a Horde perspective, the Alliance are perfectly justified in wanting Garrosh dead.
Nagaina Mar 23rd 2012 3:35PM
"That's not difficult at all. He deserves to die for the kaldorei and tauren children lying dead in Thal'darah Grove. Hellscream's Eyes were not upon the commanders he put in place until it was time to absolve himself of murder in someone else's blood. And, no, I'm not morally conflicted about wanting to put an arrow in him at all."
-- Meleiriel Brightfeather, spawn of Highborne traitors.
Atanae Mar 23rd 2012 2:48PM
I think Garrosh makes for a very sad and poignant story, which is what Blizzard likes.
Here's someone players have interacted with, "grown up" with, in a way. A character with much potential.
But the reality is that Garrosh chose to take advantage of Cataclysm and invade the lands of people who had been in a Trade agreement with the Horde for resources, then proceeded to commit premeditated "war crimes" against non-combatants.
Actions have consequences, regardless of how we feel about the individual. Just now, as I write this, the AP is reporting that the soldier in Afganistan who is accused of killing 16 people is being charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder and could very likely receive a death sentence. And this is a guy who was a decorated soldier, a father and someone who most likely should have never been sent on that latest Tour at all. And yet he (allegedly) committed crimes and he is going to be held accountable for his actions.
So, too, does Garrosh need to be held accountable. And Garrosh's story arc is actually an interesting analysis of what happens to a person when they are given more power than they are ready for. Garrosh was far too "green" to be War Chief. That's like taking your neighbor and making him President of the United States. And it wasn't as if Garrosh proved himself to be mature in Wrath. There are plenty of emotes from Thrall telling Garrosh to shut up and sit down (just as Jaina did with Varian Wrynn). Simply put, Garrosh lacked the maturity and the depth to lead the entirety of the Horde. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And now we get to see what that power is doing to Garrosh. And we can feel sorrow for the lost potential and that is good story telling. Some stories are tragic. Some characters do not get a happy ending. And Blizzard came right out and stated that in WoW, they want no one to get a happy ending.
But what we need to remember is that there are a lot of things that can happen in the Garrosh fight. Traditionally, players never kill an End End Boss alone, they always get help from major lore characters. It may be possible that the end result is that Garrosh is not slain, but incarcerated. It may be possible that in his final throes of rage, he is whisked away by Sargeras (thus playing in to the demon connection). Maybe part of the mechanic is to beat some sense into Garrosh, a la the Ulduar Watchers.
There are so many ways this story can go. So many ways Blizzard can make this fight happen and have it not be kill boss get lewtz.
I am curious to see what Blizzard will do.
Dreyja Mar 23rd 2012 4:44PM
@ Atanae - That is all very well-said. I've never grown to like him as a character but I have to agree with pretty much everything you've said. :)
ravyncat Mar 23rd 2012 2:48PM
At the moment, Garrosh does not deserve to die or be deposed as Warchief. I suspect whatever he does in Mists will lead him to being deserving of one or both though.
I think Garrosh is going down as the ultimate victim of the Sha--which he will help strengthen through war.
Will the Sha encourage him to drink demon blood even though he is opposed now? Maybe.
The thing about Garrosh is that he has always seemed emotionally insecure to me. He has never had balance. A lot of his actions are brash coverups to hide his insecurity.
Even though he is a worthy warrior and could probably be a good leader if he was a bit more objective, I don't think Garrosh believes in himself.
At heart, he does not believe he is good enough--worthy enough?--to be Warchief. But he hides that doubt with bravado and does everything he can to try to prove himself to others even if he is never satisfied.
This inner conflict will make him a great target for the Sha.
What I really think is going on here is a planned part of a much bigger story than Garrosh and what he does wrong. I don't think Garrosh is going down to appease the Alliance or even to make Horde players who never liked him happy.
He is an example or something that illustrates a major plot point in the big story that is WoW. Like maybe the Old Gods/Sha/whatever are finally getting so strong that anyone at all could be corrupted. Maybe they are getting ready to pop their prison planet and get away in a future expansion.
Whatever happens to Garrosh has been planned for a while. I think he was made full of doubt and anger so it could happen.
Killik Mar 23rd 2012 7:50PM
That's totally my analysis of the guy's character too - doubt and rage are his weaknesses and they spur him to pretty stupid, heroic actions (and ignore important details). He is going to make some Sha very, very happy.
Rhev Mar 23rd 2012 2:50PM
Did Anduin Lothar DESERVE to die? Did Bolvar Fordragon? What does it matter if someone "DESERVES" to die. This is Azeroth, a brutal world. People die all the time. I'll be glad to run my blade through this brown skinned jerk's face personally.
FOR THE HORDE! (and the alliance actually)
Dreyja Mar 23rd 2012 2:51PM
Yes!
I've written many a diatribe about what an awful person I think he is. I won't re-do it here, especially when so many have already done so. But yes, even if he doesn't do anything WORSE than what he's already responsible for, at the least he should never have been Warchief and needs to come face-to-face with his own stupidity.
mrtomhimself Mar 23rd 2012 2:53PM
I for one do not want to see the Warchief dead. I like Garrosh as Warchief, although it took me by surprise, I like that he is actually a character, has some depth, and wants to take the Horde places. I suspect that we will see him demonized (not literally) in Mists, with his hunger for war pissing off the Pandaren natives, and possibly bringing about some super powerful boss for the first tier of raiding. With us knowing that we will end up fighting him, I would prefer for him to not die, learn a lesson or two, and be sent back to Nagrand (ala Thrall) to cultivate the Orcs in Outland.
Jaq Mar 23rd 2012 2:55PM
Does he deserve to die right now?
No, not at all.
Now if he does something off the rails insane, like Arthas taking Frostmourne and murdering his father levels of insane, then yes. But it's going to take something like that to make him deserve killing.
nighthawque Mar 23rd 2012 2:56PM
I absolutely hate Garrosh. That is why he needs to continue to be the leader of the horde. I definitely do not want someone I am sympathetic/almost like to be the enemies leader.
Let the evil vile nasty scum orcs have a vile evil nasty scum leader.
kgavrin Mar 23rd 2012 3:04PM
And that is why, as a Horde member, I prefer Wrynn to stay on the throne. It's good to have an evil guy that I can absolutely loathe and want to murder, repeatedly.