Mists of Pandaria Beta: New Ragefire Chasm video
by Mathew McCurley 
Mar 23rd 2012 at 10:30AM
Four new bosses now reside in Ragefire Chasm, including:
- Adarogg, a nasty flamehound that has eaten his captors
- Dark Shaman Koranthal, who is performing a creepy ritual
- Slagmaw, who is Magmaw, but not; name potentially not final
- Lava Guard Gordoth, a caged experiment that breaks out just as you arrive
What secrets does this new Ragefire Chasm hold? Hopefully, the answer is just around the corner as we dig deeper into the Mists of Pandaria beta. Stay tuned, and check out the video of some of the new changes to the Ragefire Chasm instance above.
My personal pet theory is that the Dark Shaman (from the Twilight's Hammer cult) and Burning Blade cultists have been doing some Nefarian-esque experiments beneath Orgrimmar and found some sort of discovery to enhance the ability of orcish soldiers, resembling the Shadow Council's forced aging of children. After finding out about these experiments, Garrosh might be desperate enough to use it. Maybe he even created it. What about former Twilight's Hammer cultists?!
Whatever it is, it's under Orgrimmar -- and it's bad. Stay tuned.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 3)
Luotian Mar 23rd 2012 10:59AM
Oh for heaven's sake, WHY?! Why are they going the fel taint route? It makes absolutely zero sense for Garrosh's character.
Go with the Sha, but not this way, pleeeeaaaaseeeee.
Knob Mar 23rd 2012 11:13AM
It may not make sense now, but remember that Garrosh hasn't really been pushed into a corner yet. When Jaina goes all dark-side after Theramore's destroyed and Varian gets his shit sorted out (fully this time), the Alliance may just push back Garrosh enough to give him pause. Of course, Garrosh's pause consists of thinking how he'll let his father down if he fails followed by thoughts on how Grom would have fought back. He'd then consider himself able to control the demons' corruption since he knows about the history unlike the orcs of old and take every advantage he can get in order to beat the Alliance...in this case, do experiments with demon blood underneath Orgrimmar to create supersoldiers.
Of course, Saurfang has something to say about that.
Sir Broose Mar 23rd 2012 12:19PM
I don't see why it's so hard to believe that the story arc could go that way. The whole point of making Garrosh so against the use of demon power is probably to make the fact that he finally succumbed to what he hated most an intense plot twist.
It's such a common plot device: the hero fights almost cult-like against evil, and in his zeal, succumbs to evil himself. That is exactly why he was written to hate the demon taint so powerfully in the first place, so it would be painful and poignant when he fell to that very weakness, himself.
Luotian Mar 23rd 2012 12:27PM
@Sir Broose:
Common =/= good. Not logical. I still fail to see why Arthas went the way he did (or why what he did in Strat was a bad thing, but that is neither here nor there).
And I could roll my eyes and buy it if they didn't already have this Sha thing set up that is so much more interesting, current, and believable. If you have a perfectly viable and IC way of falling, why go another, more predictable, boring, pushing the OC button route?
CDave Mar 23rd 2012 3:32PM
People upset about Garrosh going the fel route are really getting on my nerves because they are forgetting something really crucial; yes, he doesn't like demons or those that mess with fel magics because it goes against everything his father fought against, and that's just it. Grom did drink demons blood, but he also eventually overcame it. So let's think about this again; Garrosh knows that his father, who he now looks up to and aspires to be like, was in the end able to overcome the demons. Why wouldn't Garrosh believe that he could as well? Especially knowing that it is possible and that he is the son of Orc who did so.
This isn't an argument about Garrosh succumbing to fel corruption, it's him flat out KNOWING that it's in his genes to overcome demonic influence (and absolutely NO ONE can deny that, which is what wil make the details of this story so compelling).
Jem Mar 24th 2012 1:15AM
@Luotian
"I still fail to see why Arthas went the way he did (or why what he did in Strat was a bad thing, but that is neither here nor there)"
I found the culling of stratholme to be hard to understand as a 'bad thing' for along time, and then I was running it once and had a moment of clarity. Unfortunately I can't explain the thinking very well. The killing of the undead was necessary, but he didn't just do that. He walked in and killed everyone. His dialogue at the beginning, when they asked him to save them, and then as he goes into the Town Hall - he intends to kill people irrespective of their status. He struck them down and told them clean death was the best thing he had to offer. The still living of Stratholme were not all infected.
Arthas' dialogue includes lines like "glad I could get to you before the plague". He didn't intend to save those he reached before the plague infected them, he intended to kill them. That is the morally bad part of the Culling of Stratholme. Not that he killed those who were infected, but that he killed those he could have saved. He chose to kill the still living innocents.
There was no good choice really with Stratholme. But he could have made the effort to evacuate and then quarantine those who were not yet infected. He could have made more of an effort make Uther understand the consequences of the plague instead of being a hot headed little 'I'm going to be the king" prat. It was a tipping point decision that set Arthas on a specific path. Killing everyone, that level of ruthlessness would be seen again in his defiance of the orders to return to Lordaeron. He had his boats burned, willing to sacrifice every one of his men to achieve his goal of revenge. Just like he was willing to kill the innocent of Stratholme for the 'greater good' of his belief in what was right.
With Garrosh, I am hoping his storyline is more along the fall of Arthas due to bad decisions and personality flaws, rather than an external 'the old gods made him do it'. I dont' know if redemption will be an option at the end or not, but I think it is far more interesing character development when their fall from grace is driven from within than from without.
Knob Mar 23rd 2012 11:09AM
For the first instance that people run with their very first 5-man group, that is some epic art and bosses. Too bad you one-shot them all, I wonder if the mechanics are easy to grasp but fun at the same time, especially considering the level range this place will be run at.
Nina Katarina Mar 23rd 2012 11:13AM
I'm blocked from watching video at my office, so I must ask you all, were there any troggs in the new RFC?
If not, then it appears that the Horde have the ability to get rid of a trogg infestation where certain other people cannot. Maybe a group of very short people should consider changing allegiance...
Imnick Mar 23rd 2012 11:19AM
There were troggs, but they were being eaten by hellhounds
To be honest I don't think unleashing hellhounds into Gnomeregan would help solve the situation at all
L_fetcu Mar 23rd 2012 11:50AM
But would be funny as hell
Pyromelter Mar 23rd 2012 4:02PM
Troggs were there, but they were all dead. McCurley went around the corner of one of the nooks in there and saw a bunch of dead troggs on the floor.
Scuac Mar 23rd 2012 11:16AM
I smell a heroic RFC for 5.3.
Jebediah54 Mar 23rd 2012 2:44PM
And this makes me pretty excited for it too. After instances like Grim Batol and Stonecore with a ton of trash mobs, I'm glad there are just a few in here.
Pyromelter Mar 23rd 2012 4:03PM
I'm generally against the re-using asset thing for heroics, but maybe it's just cuz I'm a horde homer, heroic RFC sounds like FANTASTIC idea.
vlad_dracul2k2002 Mar 23rd 2012 11:40AM
Didn't they adjust RFC at the beginning of Cata? Or did they just move the quest NPCs into it?
Nagaina Mar 23rd 2012 11:50AM
They moved the quest NPCs inside but it was otherwise the same.
vlad_dracul2k2002 Mar 23rd 2012 11:55AM
Okey. Matt said the place is more 'streamlined' in the new RFC. People got lost in the previous version? o.O
Pyromelter Mar 23rd 2012 4:05PM
I think by streamlined he meant the removal of trash pats, there isn't as much trash as there was before. And I could be wrong but I think the little side rooms were also cut off? couldn't really tell on the video.
Orrine Mar 23rd 2012 11:48AM
Matt, next time take quests please. There may be something interesting said when you finish them ;) And thanks for video.
Pyromelter Mar 23rd 2012 4:06PM
I think he didn't take the quests because they weren't fully implemented yet, and in the future when they do get implemented, he would want to take the quests at that time.
I've heard/read about things like this on betas, if you take a quest and complete it and it's not completely implemented, it can bug you for those quests, or even bug your character out.
Now I'm sure he can just delete and re-roll a new toon, but maybe he's attached to Orctest? Anyway, I think the mega-bug thing with the "NYI" tag is why he didn't actually accept the quests.