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3-28-2012 @ 2:08PM
I actually really hope the orgrimmar raid ends up with a showdown between Garrosh and Varian. Garrosh is not our prey, he is Varians. I would be happy if i was just set to deal with whoever turns out to really be behind all this(Magetha Grimtotem would be a prime contender IMHO).
3-28-2012 @ 2:46PM
If we want to see growth, it would be better for someone else, say 10 or 25 some one elses, to defeat Garrosh and King Varian to simply be glad tha the threat is at an end.
3-28-2012 @ 2:49PM
The last boss of an xpac usually has NPC intervention. However, that is not to say that Garrosh will die at Varian Wrynn's hand. Several outcomes are feasible:1) Wrynn defeats Garrosh a second time and motions to have Garrosh taken prisoner. Garrosh is poisoned instead by, most likely, the dark forces in alignment with the Dark Shaman. A fitting end to a leader who "earned" his title as Warchief through similar means.2) Wrynn defeats Garrosh a second time ... yadda yadda ... Garrosh is inexplicably whisked away by force/s unknown, later to return in a future expansion as a "boss" of the Burning Legion. This would be a call-back to Grom's ties to the Legion *and* Blizzard could enact Garrosh's rescue and redemption (as a counterpoint to, say, Staghelm). Blizzard has several "rescue/redeem" bosses.3) Wrynn defeats Garrosh a second time ... yadda yadda ... and Zul'jin kills Garrosh in open combat, knowing that Garrosh would be a wedge that would ultimately divide the Horde. This way, the Horde retains honor, the "mantle" of Warchief is passed in a Horde-acceptable manner and both factions save face. I don't see Baine doing this (even to "avenge" his father, but I do see Zul'jin offering himself as a proxy and ultimately passing authority to Baine (since I see Zul'jin as wanting the freedom to do what he needs to do and not be shackled by the burdens of Warchief).What I do not foresee is Garrosh being held prisoner by Wrynn. That would be an unfortunate tableau. Also, Blizzard made great effort to tell Garrosh's story, and if they play their cards right he could still be extremely useful for quite a while. After all, Sunwell didn't so much "end" TBC as it set the stage for the next Legion-focused expansion.
3-28-2012 @ 2:56PM
While I'm all for seeing Zul'Jin make a BIG meaningful comeback and be a wicked lore figure instead of wasted in a single boss encounter....I think you meant Vol'Jin.It's funny how often I see people getting those names mixed up. I think that says something about how much people loved Zul'Jin.Personally, I lvoe both of those trolls though. Both excellent figures with lots of lore potential.
3-28-2012 @ 2:57PM
3-28-2012 @ 3:02PM
For you Alliance, Varian vs Garrosh would be nice.For we Horde... THRALL vs GARROSH! Finally get to finish what the Lich King interrupted all those years ago!
3-28-2012 @ 3:35PM
Personally, I'd like to see Varian vs Garrosh, Varian wins, and we take Garrosh back to Stormwind in chains to stand trial for his crimes against the people of the Alliance. No vengeance, only justice.Let him be hanged for all to see.
3-28-2012 @ 6:15PM
Alliance cannot dictate the end of Garrosh (and cannot take him prisioner), it should be a member of the horde who determines the end of Garrosh rule. The reason behind this is because it would create a power vacuum within the horde (and I do not care how much they like each other each will push their own agenda) and the second reason is by simple saying of... "a king does not kill a king". I think Alliance and Horde will march together to orc city and basically it will be a faction leader (I am betting the troll) will either kill him or severely wound Garrosh and by doing that (and because he had help from the alliance) he cannot become leader. Thrall should not come back to the horde since he is a neutral faction leader and he has saved the world about 55k times in cata. It would be nice to see the cow become the new leader, but the horde has always been ruled by the orcs... so I imagine that we have not seen the new leader yet... or maybe it is the orc who lost his son in the wrathgate... he is an awesome figure. Sorry I am an alliance player hand have not played horde much.
3-29-2012 @ 12:39AM
Y'know what would kinda be cool to me? After Garrosh has been... "disposed of" (any which way that turns out), and there is officially nobody as Warchief (and for the sake of arguement, Thrall doesn't step up to the plate), I would like to see some kind of process that would see who all would nominate themselves to replace Garrosh, then perhaps some kind of vote take place to do so - even cooler if it were done in real life via battle.net accounts with paid subscriptions.I'd vote for Vol'jin, because he's awesome in ways neither Thrall or Garrosh are, or Baine if he was confident enough. Sylvanas, though... I am a huge fan of hers, but even though I understand the motivation behind her current actions, I can't say she has the best intentions for... well, anyone not Forsaken.Is there a chance we could have a silly proxy-vote like this on WoW Insider? A really fun KYL:TFH kinda thing, where we could see the platforms all potential runners would have, and a short "vote for me!" speech? It might take a whole week, but it'd be really fun!
3-29-2012 @ 2:01AM
What I'd like to see is, after a long and hard fight, after we're all bloody, Garrosh's dark shaman decides to get them the hell out of dodge. As they're about to step through the portal, two figures step through and close it after them. Saurfang announces to the raid (varian too) that he swore he would kill hellscream if he tried to bring the horde down the same dark path again. Varian makes an "after you" gesture and says "I came to neutralize his threat, do what you will." Saurfang and Garrosh have a duel, after a bit garrosh knocks saurfang down and screams that the horde belongs to him. -stabbing and wet coughing sounds- Then Vol'jin unstealths behind him and says "I made you a promise too. I hope you didn't forget." Garrosh dies.
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