Drama Mamas: Should a WoW widow become a WoW player?
We are all for couples spending time in Azeroth together to strengthen their relationships, but is that the solution to this week's drama?
Boy, do I need the Drama Mamas advice! Here is my dilemma....my husband is a devout WoW player (we have been together for 2 years), my adult son and teenage daughter from my previous marriage live with us and they also play WOW. I feel sad, left out and jealous (of the time he spends on it, having to wait for raids and dungeons to be over with so I can talk to him, him getting to have fun while I have to work and last, but certainly not least, of his relationships with certain guild members.) I have been kicking around playing with him, but I get totally overwhelmed just thinking about it.
The obstacles as I see them are:
Should I try to play or should I just stay out? If I play...do I ask him to help me? or do I try to learn and level on my own? What if I put time/energy/heart and soul into getting my character to a level that can raid, etc and the guild doesn't want me?
- Time -- I work full time, trying to start my own business and have 2 kids still in school. He does not work and has many hours a day that he devotes to playing.
- Understanding -- I'm not a gamer and I am so intimidated by the game...I just don't "get" it when I'm watching them play.
- Perception -- I don't want to be seen as the jealous wife that is playing just to worm her way into the guild.
Thanks for your help,
Shannon
I have some questions for you to consider about how you're balancing everything in your life right now, as well as a few considerations of focus you may want to step back and ponder. If you'll think through all of these and then act on what you find to be pressure points, I think you'll find the flow you're looking for.
- You sound less frustrated by demands of your current schedule and your own lack of downtime than by the imbalance between your available downtime vs. that of your husband and family. Which way does the imbalance swing for you -- is it that you wish you had more time to relax with them, or is it that you wish they would help you with your business?
- If you wish your family would engage more with your business, is there a realistic way for them to do that? Or is this something that only you can do?
- Do you already have a hobby that you enjoy (or would like to, if you had more free time)?
- Are you interested in playing World of Warcraft because you think it looks fun, or are you more enthused about the idea of sharing a hobby and recreational time with your family?
- It sounds as if you're not able to wrap up your own day before your husband becomes ensconced in Azeroth. Have you ever talked with him about ways the two of you might connect more regularly? (He might be able to sit down and visit with you while you're wrapping things up, before he sits down to play, or you might find another time of the day to spend time together. He might be able to help with your business. He might take responsibility for home and family matters, eliminating any need for you to worry about a second shift.)
- Can you and your husband find a regular evening or evenings when you can put work on hold and he can stay offline, so you can do things together?
- What's your own social support network like? Do you have friends or even online contacts you can share your day with when your family's occupied?
- If you did play WoW, would you want him to play with you and help you from the start? Would he want to? Would doing that be enjoyable for both of you, or would it feel like an obligation?
- If you did play WoW, do you envision joining him in his regular activities and his guild? Or would you rather do something different as a duo or family team?
- What would happen if you leveled a character with the intention of playing with him in the endgame, but then his guild didn't invite you for membership?
- Where are your kids in the WoW mix? Do they play with him? Would you be joining them in game?
- Do you tend to get swept away in activities (video games, reading, social media, TV, whatever) that nibble away at your free time? Do you feel confident that you'd be able to limit your time in WoW, or do you suspect it might eat up the time you'd prefer to devote to your business?
- Do you actually want to play World of Warcraft, or are you simply feeling isolated from the rest of your family?
World of Warcraft is definitely the smallest consideration in your situation. As far as the game goes, sign up for a trial account and give it a whirl all by yourself. That will show you whether gaming's even something you enjoy. If it seems to hold potential as a fun way for you to connect with your family, give it a shot! If not, you can log off armed with a deeper understanding of their hobby and primed to tackle the larger issues of sharing family responsibilities and free time.
Your husband doesn't work at all and is unable to find time for you when you come home from work?
This has nothing to do with WoW at all. Of course, if you answer Lisa's questions and come up with the fact that you would actually like to try World of Warcraft, go for it. And don't worry about seeming like the jealous wife. Significant others who play just to hang out with their gamer partners are a dime a dozen, and you aren't going to be considered ultra-clingy if you try to join in. But that is a completely separate issue. It's time to get your husband to spend a little less time in Azeroth and a little more time on your marriage.
I know you can't force change on anyone. But it is obvious that there is a whole lot of one-sidedness to the responsibilities in your family. Your adult son, almost-adult daughter and adult husband play WoW while you work and pursue your business. (I understand your kids are attending school, but they seem to have a lot of extra time on their hands as well.) It looks like you are carrying all of the burden and getting none of the leisure time.
Yes, I think that having your own hobbies separate from your husband is extremely important. Yes, I think that your husband is entitled to his own hobbies even if he is not out earning a living. But you both need to spend time pursuing interests together as well; otherwise, it's not so much a marriage as a roommate situation.
Work out a schedule with your husband for some couple time when you are available. He can still attend raids (or at least some of them, if he is in a heavy raiding guild), but arrange for togetherness as well. Don't issue ultimatums, and try not to get emotional about it, but make sure you let him know how important sharing leisure time is to you. Bringing up his close guild buddies (are they female?) is not a good idea. It's not about them; it's about him and how he treats you.
If he refuses to adjust his WoW schedule in order to cultivate his relationship with you, then I'm sorry to say that it is time for some counseling. Maybe he needs someone outside of the family to tell him that he is not appreciating what you do for him and is not respecting your time. You deserve better treatment than this, and I hope you get it. /hug
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Noyou Apr 2nd 2012 1:18PM
So many things going on here. Both Mama's gave excellent advice as always. At the very least hubby needs to put wifey #1 for at least an hour a day (or whatever time they can agree upon) or this ship is sinking fast. Wifey: Trying to get Hubby to take interest you suddenly playing might work. I can say from my own experience that if someone is playing with you and really wants to be doing something else- it can and probably will make things worse. If you do decide to try WoW out- try with one of the kiddos or try alone. Good luck!
AquaWrench Apr 2nd 2012 1:20PM
Both gave great advice. But Robin, I think your analysis was spot-on. There is an elephant in the room, and it's the fact that the wife works and props up the family, while the husband stays at home and plays WoW.
Maybe there's a good reason he doesn't work - maybe he has a disability, or is unemployed but actively looking. That isn't the point. The point is that there's a serious disparity in this couple's responsibility balance. The idea that the wife can fix it by playing WoW to connect with the rest of the family? That's simply a cosmetic step that won't fix the deeper problems.
If she wants to play, that's cool. Go for it! But I agree with Robin that there are proobably deeper issues here that require counceling.
Nonny Apr 2nd 2012 2:01PM
Speaking as someone who does have a disability and plays games to distract from the pain and such involved with it --
I still make time for my husband. I may not be much help around the house, but I can take a couple hours to talk, or watch TV, or play games together, or something. (We don't have kids, so that doesn't really come into the picture for us.) I still make sure that his emotional needs are being met (as much as is realistic for me to do).
Even if there is a disability in the picture, the LW obviously feels left out and ignored. And that right there is the problem, even more than whether he's chipping in with the household stuff.
Ata Apr 2nd 2012 2:08PM
Yeah, I kinda cringed at that. If he's able to play all day while she's working, he should be able to put it aside for a while in the evening to pay attention to his wife. It doesn't matter why he's not working, what matters is that he spends time with his wife, and with being home all the time not working, that's a significant amount of 'me' time he already gets, he should be able to put some evenings aside to spend with the writer.
Bril Apr 2nd 2012 3:16PM
Counseling doesn't work. The clean break and fresh start of a divorce will make the letter writer wonder why she didn't do it sooner. Sometimes it's just time to move on, and adult kids + an unemployed husband = a situation crying for a divorce.
jtrack3d Apr 2nd 2012 4:51PM
We really don't have enough info., IMO, to take either Lisa's or Robin's perspective. It might be true, it might not -- too many "what ifs" in the picture.
The bottom line is she isn't happy and feels excluded.
She claims she is too busy to get included but might try anyhow (meaning she isn't that busy to try).
This sounds more like, "they like to play something she doesn't, she doesn't have anything else to do but work... so she works and then resents them for playing" instead of spending time with her.
Obviously being unhappy means it's time to talk. Playing a game she isn't inspired to play is unlikely the answer. Discussing how much free time everyone spends on free activities (including WoW) as well as balancing the chores does make sense. Feeling excluded shouldn't.
My wife knows when I raid it's my time and she plans her activities around this. I know when she hangs with her friends and I plan my activities around that. But we also work together on things and always make some time for each other -- it doesn't take tons just to let someone know your still connected.
Catsmeow Apr 2nd 2012 1:30PM
I come at this from the viewpoint of a gamer. I made my hubby a wow widower for a bit of time, so, I can only talk from my side of the equation. (We both work full-time and we have children, by way of background.)
I was not fair to my husband when he first brought this up as an issue, I wasn't even aware that it could be seen as an issue. After all, I was in the living room, "sharing" space with my family - couldn't that be seen as spending time together? It made me angry and upset and frustrated that he couldn't see this my way. How was me playing WoW while the TV was on different than me watching the TV with them? How could this activitiy be construed as harmful or neglectful? Why was it not ok for me to have my freetime?
It took me a bit to understand what he was getting at, and when I did, I sat down with my family and we mapped out some equitable time. At first, it felt like having scheduled fun, but that first night that we did family movie night, this time with me on the couch next to them, my children's eyes lit up. That was how I KNEW what I had been doing was wrong. Now, I have nights that are dedicated to specific family activities, Family Movie Night and Hubby and Me Night. I still get to raid and do other things distinctly Azerothian, but I don't feel bad and there is no longer resentment in my household. If I start hitting the WoWs a little too hard (typically after a new content patch), I can recognize it for myself and I initiate the conversation with my husband!
We toyed around with the idea of him joining me on my WoW adventures, but he doesn't think it would be for him and that is ok, too.
I don't know if any of this will help, especially cause all situations and people are unique, but I did want you to know that WoW-widows (and widowers) don't have to stay that way forever.
Good luck!
Philster043 Apr 3rd 2012 11:33AM
Yeah, it doesn't really feel "spending time with the family" when half your attention is elsewhere. A lot of possible moments that might come out of actively spending time with your family - laughs, teases, reactions, jokes, surprises, stories - all that adds to their memories of you, allows them to learn more about you, and might teach them more of themselves, but all can be missed because you're doing something else that is involved. And paying them direct attention is always a nice feeling for them. Your kids probably just wanted to feel like you were actually doing something with them and WANTED to be with them, ie. you didn't care about anything else at that moment but to be with them. Most kids are like that with their mothers and fathers. Glad you realized it and are working on it! =)
Armill3 Apr 2nd 2012 1:26PM
Wow. Dude doesn't have a job, just plays WoW all day, and doesn't have time for her either? I love the game as much as anyone, but seriously - this guy sounds like a shiftless loser. She should stop carrying this deadweight and, to borrow Dan Savage's term, DTMFA.
ad85 Apr 2nd 2012 2:33PM
I love Dan Savage, but I think you should fire a warning shot or two before going straight to DTMFA.
Pyromelter Apr 2nd 2012 8:19PM
Generally agree that this guy appears to be a loser, but I agree with ad85 that she should try to work it out before she just dumps him.
I also think the mamas were too light on both shannon as well as her husband. Shannon needs to slap some sense into him, or it should be time to DTMFA. And I wish the mamas had given a little more tough love to shannon herself.
Nina Katarina Apr 2nd 2012 1:31PM
Tell your husband he's got to grind rep with the spousal faction. Otherwise it'll go from Neutral to Hostile to Hated and he'll get attacked every time you come into range. It's not hard. Do some dailies, finish up some quests. There's no tabard, but there are plenty of crafting turn-ins and engineering is actually useful for once.
If he gets to Honored or above it'll provide some nice food buffs and the possibility of some unique items.
albanesp Apr 2nd 2012 1:37PM
lol, "rep grinding" never sounded better
+1
Onyxis Apr 2nd 2012 1:49PM
[url=http://www.wowhead.com/spell=59752]Every Man for Himself[/url] might be a very handy human racial, but he can't rely on that all the time. He needs to start taking advantage of [url=http://www.wowhead.com/spell=20599]Diplomacy[/url].
xrarndx Apr 2nd 2012 1:48PM
Thank you for putting it into terms we can all understand :)
+1
drjcseal Apr 2nd 2012 2:09PM
So much this! This is an awesome post, very clever and a great way to think about it. Thank you.
Caylynn Apr 2nd 2012 1:57PM
Awesome! :) Excellent response. :D
Nonny Apr 2nd 2012 2:24PM
*cough*
http://www.chorewars.com/
I know so many people who have actually made housework FUN with this thing.
BB Crisp Apr 2nd 2012 2:46PM
I love it.
albanesp Apr 2nd 2012 1:37PM
Holy H3ll, throw the bum out!!!!!!!!
No seriously, why isn't he speding his time:
a) looking for a job
b) cooking, cleaning, household chores (the traditional stay at home role) when you are busting your butt and bringing home the bacon?
Sounds like you are financing his WoW life, but what exactly are you getting out of this?