Dec 14th 2007 1:05PM Add me to the Alliance edition
Sep 28th 2007 5:10PM There is no guess work about warriors left. There is no guessing. People like Kaylye in post #30 are speaking truth that has been tested out. If you spend 5 minutes on google you can find the guides that spell everything out for you. Here are some of the most vital places for you to go:
Warrior Guides By Satrina - this site is also on the official list of Warrior Guides as listed by Blizzard. You can consider this the tanking bible:
This covers topics like stam, gear, devestate, armor, crits, crushing, defense, glancing blows, etc. Please visit it if you have any questions at all
To understand threat values, you should visit the guide writen by Kenco who is the author of KTM:
Cinderhelm is THE biggest proponent of Shield Slam as a PvP tool. The front page of his site, www.tankspot.com , has a list of 4k+ shield slams and videos of him destorying targets in PvP with at least 31 points in Prot.
His list of guides are found here:
The problem with the warrior class isn't the warrior in the game, its the poorly informed individuals playing the game. Spend some time to absorb what these researchers pulled together for you, then spend a couple weeks trying them out before you make another claim of "xxxx in the warrior class is useless."
Sep 28th 2007 2:34PM Sigh, so many children here. I said our threat scales. I didn't talk about individual spells. Really, get over yourself.
Sep 28th 2007 1:40PM What did I do? I never said warriors didn't scale, our damage didn't scale or that our threat didn't scale. To make it clearer: I think most of the people, including the original topic are way off base here. Outside of #18 you have a bunch of misinformed players that prefer to cry about the class instead of seeing how good we actually have it. There is nothing wrong with the warrior class (well, maybe some threat reduction for dps), let alone our prot tree.
I'm done here. This isn't any better than the WOW forums. People don't read and prefer to insult.
Sep 28th 2007 12:33PM @14 Shield block value (SBV) and shield block rating (SBR) are far two differnt things. You need to understand the combat table and why SBR doesn't matter. SBV is what causes your shield slam to do more damage. For a better explanation read:
Prot warriors with fury gear on Aran in the melee dps group will do a ton of damage, esp if they are there with a shammy. My DPS do quite fine as we have made progress in both SSC and TK. Try it out before you knock it and I will also bring a WWS spreadsheet to prove it to you after our next lockout. I'll bring math and proof, you can continue to make inflamatory posts providing nothing but insults.
Solo in SMV as prot for me is no worry at all. I can do it in tank gear or fury gear with no issues and the changes in 2.3 will only make solo prot grinding that much better. Think about it: A 9 rage spammable (with the right build) attack that has stacking armor penetration built into it that scales with better weapons and stats.
Sep 28th 2007 11:47AM PROT in TBC is fun and it is a lot better than it ever was in the past. With the right gear and spec you will out threat your entire raid. Most warriors don't understand the HUGE value of shield block value (that causes your shield slams to scale by bigger hit - 2k shield slams are not hard to get at all anymore and that is more threat in one single attack than anything else in the game). Shield block RATING is useless and I see so many tanks stacking that for god knows what reason. Visit www.evilempireguild.org/guides/ if you want to see the math behind this. I do 300+ dps on Gruul with the right setup. This includes picking up Cruelty, 1H spec and Shield Mastery to scale up your damage/threat.
Spamming devestate on anything is not gimmicky and not sure how you think so. The only thing that limits this attack is the global cooldown and is intended to be spammed.....but it is only worthwhile to do so if you apply a few sunders while grinding. Your damage will be terrible if you don't do so. Allowing a tank in a 10 man fight with no threat issues to do that much damage to push past rogues and locks shows just how powerful this attack is with the right gear and buffs.
Sep 28th 2007 11:34AM The devestate change is going to help Prot solo grinding. As it is, with fury gear I can be tops on damage during Shade of Aran by spamming devestate/ww. Using the same fury gear for my dailys on Netherwing ledge allows me to complete the quests out there. However, to help counter the 50% damage loss of devestate you need to spend several global cooldowns on sunder during which you do very little damage and will take some, esp if you have multiple mobs. Now devestate will apply sunder while doing damage that will scale up with each stack of sunder. How can you not see this as an increase. Devestate in zerker stance with good AP/Crit gear is spammable every time it is up! Warriors don't have any damage dealing spell like this in other trees. If you don't have fury gear this means nearly every global cooldown in tank gear will cause damage! Then there is the real chance that devestate is the best threat generating tool in the game now due to the lack of cooldown.
Despite the nerf to mace spec, I am hoping 2.3 is here soon just due to the devestate change.
Aug 27th 2007 5:35PM When the exploit is used, it causes a crash of realm and instance servers. Realms are available within a minute or two. Instance servers are taking anywhere from 30-60min to come back up, locking the full raid of characters in there during that time.
Jul 26th 2007 12:04PM Register me!