Jul 10th 2010 8:25AM I forgot to add ... if you DO try LoTRO and you love it - for heavens sake don't - at that point - invite all your wow buddies to join you there. This is your COUPLE TIME! This is for the two of you together. If you just invite everyone else then it just makes the same problem again probably.
Jul 10th 2010 8:19AM I would like to suggest to the original person who wrote to the Drama Mammas this (and to put things into perspective I'm a woman gamer married to another gamer (who is male) and I'm 'the' WoW player (main tank in a guild raiding icc10) whereas he has tried many times and quit - leaving his level 80 mage just about toc10 ready .. he is good but he isn't interested ...
You and your wife have already tried to play WoW together and failed. At this point you are probably at a point where you are raiding and this changes your attitude so it can be really DIFFICULT to play very casually even when you are. Also you are probably much more knowledgable about WoW than she is at this point which puts you into the role of 'expert'.
Now this is the point where she comes in - tries to do everything you say - probably doesn't get it the first time - and just isn't enjoying herself because she is feeling patronized a bit. She is probably interested in being with your friends 'cause you seem to be having a cool time but she probably isn't really interested in playing WoW ... she's interested in being part of your life. I think that if she WAS interested in WoW, she would have gotten hooked the first time and by now she would have been 80 already, raiding and teaching YOU how to play ;-)
We've been here and done that and WoW just leads to arguments for us. But what DOES work is that we play LoTRO (Lord of the Rings Online) together. We have a vanity guild there and it is our time together. We don't even do dungeons together there but LoTRO is now set up so that you can do all the important story quests that used to be 6 man as a solo player .. or any number ... ie. it scales in difficulty by team number ... you can also to mini-instances called Skirmishes that scale by the number of people in your group - and there is a duo setting just for couples that is darn hard and challenging. We have a lot of fun with that and I've relearned new respect for my husband as a gamer since he IS interested and tries hard there. We have each got a house which we've decorated and we bought a kinship hall which we worked together to decorate too and it is lots of fun. We are on an RP server so if the mood takes us to RP we can go to the Prancing Pony and sit and listen and join in.
But the important thing is - neither of us are inherantly BETTER at this game we share so we are equal, it is OUR time, and nobody in WoW can contact us to bother us about anything at all when we are in LoTRO. I recommend Lotro as the perfect couples game and it goes free to play in the autumn so there isn't even an added expense. It's actually even a bit hard to play solo and an extra person is a life-saver.
But even if Lotro isn't your cup of tea - a different game you can play cooperatively might just be the ticket. Some of the console games - even the LEGO star wars etc. titles are hilarious to sit and play together.
What you want is .. couple time ... and FUN. Which seems to me to be best spent making goofy mistakes together and memories in whatever game you pick. But I wouldn't recommend that it be WoW...
I'm not saying WoW doesn't work for some couples - it does! But you've already TRIED it and it didn't work so I think something fresh and new might be an idea. Good Luck to you!
Feb 16th 2010 12:37PM I just remembered. The very very long Turtle escort quest in Tanaris. You find the husband turtle wandering lost and confused .. very very worried about bringing food home to his worried wife. He keeps going on about it all the way back to her and I do mean ALL the way back as you need to go from one corner of the sector to the other escorting and protecting him the whole way.
When you finally arrive ... well! HOLD your ears ... she has quite a lot to say to him about getting lost and bringing the wrong stuff.
Another of my favorite quests is 'Saving Sharpebeak' which is only available to the alliance. It is very sweet when Sharpebeak flies away with his mummy and daddy.
Feb 16th 2010 9:25AM I found a little level 1 lemming high up on a mountain where few people ever go.
Jan 26th 2010 1:36PM What about if you aren't a designated tank and there is a clear aggro table your attacks just miss. Would be funny for mobs that don't have an aggro table at all or one that resets tho.
Jan 21st 2010 3:29AM This is the article I needed! I suspected that my normal rotation wasn't working on trash as I stood next to other hunters who did better in lesser gear. I was ok. Just not absolutely great, although I was usually in the top 3 dps for bosses. Using the ideas in your wonderful article plus the reader suggestion of viper sting on mana 'containers', I was able to increase my average dps by almost 1000 on trash (from about 2700 to 3700). I now have a happy hunter!
This should be mandatory reading for all hunters running heroics and killing trash in raids.
Jan 18th 2010 1:55PM Link and Drakkenfyre - Drak, I think that the strong language isn't necessary when Link was just trying to help. It may be they say you need the pre-order but if you apply again now you might get a key. It might not - you can always try ?
Delin - it's very good but at the moment it's in beta so there are a few bugs (quite a few!) and there is a lot of frustration with server load at the moment as they are smoothing out things not having had this many people before. For a first-timer I can imagine him giving up pretty soon. I'm not a first-timer and yet I've returned to WoW many times when I couldn't stand the rubber-banding. It's not like that in all parts of the game and my husband is enjoying it immensely as he's gotten a bit further than me (like - lots further!).
Hope that helps a bit,
Jan 18th 2010 9:43AM Actually, the Star Trek Online 'Open' Beta isn't really Open to everyone - you have to have a beta key which you can get either by pre-ordering STO (might be too late for that now) or else hoping you were sent one when you registered on the site (probably too late for that also).
But I WILL agree that Star Trek Online is quite a fun way to pass the time!
Jan 1st 2010 5:23AM The thing is ... from what you say about Modern Warfare 2, it seems to me that this article is somewhat meaningless from the point of view of which games were the most popular. It does tell us which platforms people are buying games for the most, but not which games are the most popular as Wii games can ONLY be purchased for the Wii, whereas other titles are often multi-platform.
To get the most popular games you would have to add up the sales from all the platforms of a particular title. I'd like to see this actually as it would give us a more valid picture - is it possible for you to do this Mike?
(Dorelli - aka hunter_dor in another life)
Oct 14th 2009 1:14PM I so agree with you about this. I am a good WoW player but I'm not in a raid guild - I'm in a casual guild that raids (or raid guild levelling up prey).
We see so many people come in newly dinged and not really understanding how their class is played or about tactics. They are not stupid but they are just not as .. how do you say ... they don't understand that raiding is not the same game they have been playing levelling up with the occasional dungeon (maybe with a boost) etc. They expect the raids to be just like the dungeons but maybe longer and with more people.
They don't understand that a raid needs not only a balance of healing and tanking but you are not just one dps in a group of say six. You are carefully balanced for success. So other people always get to go and they get passed over and they get discouraged.
And then when they are actually allowed to go, their DPS is not high, they aren't quite experienced, they roll on the wrong things or pass because they don't understand that their own gear helps the group. And teaching them how to play is a fine fine art. It must be done by someone of the same class who is encouraging and never negative. Who is tactful and patient and really cares. Whispering how to play during a raid is NOT helpful. You need someone who can connect with a new raider and mentor ... burnout of these people is high ...
And yet we continue to struggle, we take them because at the other end, the high end players are quitting or being poached either because they have a taste for raiding and want to do MORE or 25 mans or harder stuff - they are tired of repeating the stuff we CAN do and tired of failing at the stuff we cannot.
So we lose the high end, we recruit new people, we build up and train and lose them again in a continuous cycle. We need the numbers or we simply can't raid. We train them up, and get them going ... and do our best to keep everyone happy but it sure isn't easy. And finally finally - the struggle to keep everyone happy is over ... you have your raiding team and everyone shows up on time, with their flasks, they are happy, they joke on vent. They run the old stuff super quick and say 'hey is this nerfed or what?'. They bounce into the new stuff and know pretty much what to do because they've studied the fights.
And at that point it is all worth it. And then a key person or two takes a holiday because they are burned out from the whole struggle or there is a guild drama or Blizzard announces that all that pain wasn't worth it because we are handing out better stuff in 5 -man dungeons soon ... and people quit and oh boy... let's start again shall we? :(
Does it sound familiar?