Sep 17th 2007 7:31PM Hey, Mojo!
What part of it's against the law didn't you understand?
People have gone to JAIL for being in an online chat with a minor talking about sex, ok? Now run along and quit fighting with the girls with your uneducated poor logic. You're upsetting my raid group with your bullshit lies.
I refuse to do your research for you. Go research. You're on the internet. People go to JAIL for this shit. Know why? Because it's against the law. Don't like the law? GTFO!
Sep 17th 2007 7:14PM Poormojo says "Here's a question: if the guild were all adults engaging in erotic role play, would it be okay with you? What if it were all teens?"
Ok, last comment! NO! It's not ok because Blizzard's policies say NO! NO EXPLICIT SEXUAL LANGUAGE in the game. Kids play this game. Parents expect the policies to be what they say.
If you want a porn chat, go to some perverted adult site. You only bring it to WoW because kids are attracted to the game. You know better. You just don't WANT to know better. This a feel-good-society. If it feels GOOD to YOU, it's ok. Damn the laws, it's all about ME. That's what you're saying and I don't buy it.
Now if you'll excuse me, we have a raid to go to. We play this game to do that, yanno? We don't come here looking for kids to prey on, unlike SOME people.
Sep 17th 2007 7:10PM The law says you can't solicit children online sexually, Poormojo. It really doesn't matter what you think or your book thinks.
Blizzard's policies also don't say, "Oh you can talk like that so long as it's in private." They may excuse more because it's done in private, but they aren't going to excuse unlawful things. Therein lies the difference. Get it straight! You can call it a bs argument all you want. That doesn't make it lawful. You're the one who needs to educate yourself. You do look like a fool to all of us here tonight.
I just want to say to all my friends reading, I really love knowing you and thank you for being my friends. My NORMAL friends who I can trust and have fun in life with. This crap is disgusting. It makes me cherish my normal gaming group all the more. Thank you!!
Ok, let's do this! I'm out to do kara.
Sep 17th 2007 7:02PM I see me, Phoebe, Alicia, not sure which one the Mike was. Jason couldn't have posted because he's making salsa.
We start raiding in 5 minutes. I'm sitting here reading and making mage water. Anything else you need to know Inspector Clueso-Clueless?
Since all of us appear to think the same, there was definitely no need for anyone to post under different names because it all speaks the same sentiment, just differently. So if you're trying to make some sort of issue out of the fact that we're all friends, you just failed.
Sep 17th 2007 6:52PM Our gaming group is here at the house. Got a problem with that? Xaria showed us the post and everyone is reading it right now. There are 5 of us here at the moment, not one of us who agree with you. We all bring our laptops to Mike's house on Monday nights and raid Kara together. At 7pm server time if you must know. The other group goes to Tom's house. We are all RL friends since you're so nosey. Oh, btw, this is Alicia and it's my real name too. So you can lose the conspiracy theory.
Sep 17th 2007 6:46PM Poormojo, I don't really care what book you read to back up your arguments today. The law is the law. That book you read is not the law. It is also incorrect. Talk to any of the sexually abused who recount what happened to them as a child and tell them it wasn't "harmful".
Pedophiles believe they are not harming the children. In their sick minds they excuse their own behavior with this faleshood. Many of them even state that babies flirting with them. It's an excuse for their behavior and it's sick. If you can't see that, you need help. You shouldn't be reading books that further condone the falehoods. You should be talking to the actual abused because they don't agree with you at all.
Sep 17th 2007 6:24PM "Blizzard can't have it both ways: you can't both include sexual overtones and explicit sexual content (Hi, succubus) and then also ban people for doing the same thing.
Also, all current research shows that adolescents are not harmed by sexual talk. At all. In fact, it's natural. It's what people do." - Poormojo
You're an IDIOT, Poormojo! It's against the law, stupid! It's people like you who disseminate false information because they secretly promote this garbage. Your ignorance of the law is no excuse here. It's you who can't have it both ways. Either you love perverts or you don't. Don't give me this, "It's not doing any harm" bull. That's the creed that pedophiles spew to excuse the sick way they think. But thanks for letting us know what you are made of.
Sep 17th 2007 6:17PM Lilith posted this on Darknest. She's a nervy little pervert. Can't wait to see this one is an isolated cellblock.
Q u o t e:
We've already reformed and begun our restoration process.
We'll be more stringent on security than we were previously, as it was a spy within our ranks that caused our disbanding. We will also be exploring other options to ensure that every member can engage in every sort of play that they so desire without exposing themselves to potential threats of being reported.
Other than that, however, we're still going to be the exact same group of people with exactly the same storyline.
I'll be back in game on Monday Evening, and anyone who wants to return to us is welcome to send me a PM here with their character name, their RH profile, and a description of why they loved being a part of .
Please be aware that we will henceforth be VERY cautious of certain individuals. If you fall into this category, do not be offended. We merely wish to ensure that our members are free to enjoy themselves without reservation in a secure and pleasant environment.
The Alliance guild was also disbanded, and will be reforming as well. Those wishing to rejoin it should follow the same procedure as stated above.
Sep 17th 2007 5:52PM This was already reported to the FBI. I read on another site, maybe a week ago, where the guy had taken it to that level because he didn't get any satisfaction from Blizzard. The problem had been going on for awhile with no bans. I think he said almost a year. Blizzard wanted him to pay to get off the server. He refused and took it to that level.
I wonder if Blizzard finally made a move due to some heat.
Sep 17th 2007 5:47PM Theserene wrote, "Like I said, for violating blizzard's rules they deserve to get banned, but I see no actual LAW being violated here since they have not committed a crime. They have not done an illegal act and you cannot convict someone (the whole locking them up thing) because you think they *might* do something."
It is against the law to converse sexually with a child online. I don't know where you were when it was brought out that a 13 year old MINOR was in this guild, but the girl herself posted her personal information on the WoW forums, which was promptly deleted by Blizzard.
So watch how you word things. It is completely illegal to be even "chatting" with a minor sexually online. You don't have to meet them personally. You merely have to be engaged in conversation with them. Don't suggest otherwise.