Apr 7th 2010 7:37PM Vampiric Blood is far more useful then say Unbreakable Armor. Health from Blood Tap just as much. Instead of getting defensive over your Howling Blast spam, why not reread. My point was the UH and Frost are next to useless outside of 5 mans. Ony whelps lol? So one fight(and a damn easy one), from a previous tier is your argument? It takes more labor and awareness to Blood tank and hold threat on AoE then any other DK spec. It's a bit more then a two button difference my friend. However with some practice anyone can do it. You just have to be aware of your runes, something lots and lots of DK's aren't.
My point was the anyone who even did a small amount of research has known its been Blood from 3.1 on. If you cared about survivability, you tanked blood. If you cared about CD's you tanked blood. If you cared about TPS, you tanked blood. If you didn't know or care you specced whatever. It's FACT blood has been THE tank spec for DK's since 3.1. Well for DK's who know where EJ is at least. I'm pretty damn sure I can generalize that most guilds with DK's who tanked outside of blood never cleared anything besides Naxx and ToC. If your MT's don't care about doing thier jobs to the best of their ability, then why would the rest of the raid.
TL:DR Any spec outside of Blood belongs only in 5 mans other then remote and rare circumstances where it goes from suck to semi ok. It's been that way since 3.1.
Apr 7th 2010 3:39PM Everyone QQing about Frost being a DPS tree is either 1) A bad DK tank who can't hold threat unless its HB spam. 2) A bad DK tank who used either tanking one handers or just fast weapons pre IT buff. 3) A bad DK tank who enjoyed watching HB crits whilst tanking for larger DPS numbers. 4) A bad DK tank who obviously doesn't care about his/her survivability because if they did, they would have speced Blood 5) A bad DK tank who doesn't care about single target TPS cause if they did, they would have speced Blood.
Just because you've tanked some heroics and zerged the first wing of ICC 10 does not mean you know what you're talking about. Anyone who actually did the research and cared about being the best tank they could be has been Blood pretty much since 3.1 or so.
I know I'm going to get downrated but who cares. Blood has been VASTLY superior tank tree for almost a year. AoE TPS? Toss a DnD, spread your diseases, hit a blood boil, or a couple of tab Heart Strikes. Problem solved. Also: Be glyphed for DnD. Giving DK's 3 DPS specs, 3 Tanking specs and then trying to give them PvP talents had to be insane from a design point.
I'm sorry you are no longer going to be able to HB your way through Heroics. You're actually going to have to learn how to use your runes properly, unless GC's hints radically change the design of that as well. I'm not trying to be mean, but come on! Frost hasn't been "the tanking tree" since frickin WotLK Beta! And if you 1) didn't know the previous fact 2) Didn't spec blood for non heroic tanking then how can your opinion on the matter be valid? Cause you obviously were doing it wrong!
Jan 28th 2010 9:06AM You never ever ever ever ever EVER gem for threat (hit/crit/expertise/etc). Any progression tank thats worth his salt knows this. Also, gem Def/Stam in yellow sockets. Def gives dodge/parry/block/chance to be missed. 540 def is NOT a cap, its a minimum.
Jan 26th 2010 6:39AM I love Warrior tears. Try having only two abilities to tank with for over 3 years (Judgement/Consecrate), then come cry to me. You've done nothing but cry like 5 year olds since blizz allowed other classes to MT. You're not as squishy as you pretend to be, and who cares about DPS as a tank? You're a tank FFS, its TPS, not DPS.
Jan 25th 2010 2:21PM I think its pretty much bullshit that Blizzard got it right with Prot Paladins and the rotation and AE, and completely fucked up Warriors from start to finish. It's not our fault Warriors have more tanking buttons at level 20 then I do at level 80. Fact is, you're a tank. You have to react to changing situations on the field first and foremost. I don't have fucking time to check if I have 3 procs up so I can Revenge someone, I need to grab that loose mob now.
Paladin tanking comes very naturally once you figure it out. I have a DK and Druid tank as well, all with at least PP 10 man clears. DK's kinda have a flow like Paladins do, Druids are just spam. My level 46 warrior will always be 46, because it takes 3 bars of abilities and multi stances just to charge in and lay some threat. Fix whats broken, don't fix what ain't.
Paladin tanking makes sense, so do DK's. Make the Druids and Warriors have the same. It's simple as that. Buff heroic mobs to do more then 2k melee every 2 seconds. Then you'll see more CC, and maybe more tanks because it doesn't take rocket science to have decent TPS, like a warrior.
Jan 6th 2010 1:09PM Killed Fester and Rot pretty easy on 10 man. Even managed a one shot on Fester for good measure. Pulled Putricide twice, getting him to 54% on the second try. We called it because it was past 1am. I pretty sure he is gonna get murked tonight.