Jul 17th 2010 11:25AM Mainchenn here...
Both Noor and Reinisch got credit for kills when they did daily battleground quests, even when they didn't personally kill anyone.
However, that's one reason I did a third pacifist who skipped battlegrounds. Mainchenn only has 3 kills in his statistics (and he didn't kill any of them):
Go here and check 'kills'
Sep 3rd 2009 9:52PM "He did battlegrounds. He doesn't need to directly kill someone for this to void, simply the act of choosing to be in a war zone and watching people die violates the pacifist mind set."
It's impossible (except for the very slow seasonal attempts) to get past about level 17 for horde, and level 23 for alliance, without doing battleground daily quests. And of course my toons don't just "watch people die," I'm quite good and I know how to play.
"...violating the pacifism nature by CHOOSING TO ENTER A BATTLE ZONE is very flawed logic."
It happens in real life.
Sep 2nd 2009 6:57PM See Gutrot and the Naked Troll Project:
He may be retired now, though.
Sep 2nd 2009 6:26PM I've even done a few instances with Ahimsah, another pacifist player:
(had to split this up due to the 3 link limit)
Sep 2nd 2009 6:24PM No instances? You haven't checked out my videos:
Here's one of my favorites: doing "Kibler's Exotic Pets" without killing anything.
Learning to smelt Dark Iron was a bit tricky, too:
No creatures were harmed in the making of these videos
Sep 2nd 2009 6:11PM Oh, I know it wouldn't count as a *killing* blow, but I'd still get a kill credit for that mob. And it might be possible to kill with a Freezing Band if I aggro a critter while doing Psychic Scream and it attacks and gets a Freezing proc. But I think most critters just run when PS wears off.
Sep 2nd 2009 5:47PM Reinisch/Noor here...
The statistics can be misleading for a number of reasons:
1) as I explain (somewhere) at pacifistundeadpriest.blogspot.com, both Noor and Reinisch will use vehicles and cannons in Wintergrasp, so I get credit for those deaths and killing blows.
2) in Wintergrasp and other battlegrounds, even just being grouped with players killing players or NPCs will add to your own stats
3) some statistics are just messed up
However, I do have some legitimate killing blows; in Arathi Basin or AV, if someone is capping a flag and my Psychic Scream is on cooldown, I'll use Holy Nova (rank 1) or hit them with my staff or fishing rod, or use a Frost Grenade to interrupt them. This can kill them if they are very low on health. I estimate this has happened about ten times or so.
Reinisch (and Noor) normally wear two Freezing Bands, which cause 50 damage when they proc; this will tag mobs, so I assume I get credit if someone else kills the mob while I have it tagged.
There are some other interesting achievements; I reached level 70 on August 8, then got the achievement for looting 100 gold on August 13 (I'm now at 337g looted). You don't loot much when you don't kill mobs. I've only done 863 ordinary quests, and 727 daily quests. The only critter I've killed under Pest Control is a rat, not sure when that happened.
Jun 6th 2009 8:10PM Going to register.com and doing a whois on blizz-mounts.com reveals that it's "appropriately" operating out of Shanghai.
Apr 15th 2009 7:55PM This is obviously another cultural reference; The Tick (who is big and blue) once woke up with a mysterious mustache!
Jan 3rd 2009 6:30PM epsilon343, I knew there wouldn't be much to do after 80 (except wait for the next expansion). The only instances I've done are quests that can be soloed by a rogue.