Feb 6th 2008 10:06AM If you want to be serious about getting to Black Temple and your guild is still "farming" Karazhan, you need to find a new guild. There are dozens of guilds recruiting and they are not hard to find. I know many people are attached to their guilds and to the people in them. Trust me, you'll make new friends in your new guild. I myself was in the same position. One server transfer and a couple months later I'm killing Kael, then Archimonde then Illidan. I've met many cool people and I still chat with the peeps on my old server. Win win situation.
ZA has nothing to do with progression in this game. They put it out to keep people busy for a time. Blizzard actually did an amazing job with the instance in that it gave two different groups of raiders something to do at a time where no new raiding content had been released in a while. BT farming guilds can go in and roll the place for bear mounts. 10 man guilds have something new to pound their head against. They somehow managed to satisfy both groups. Brilliant!
Jan 14th 2008 3:36PM This is especially helpful because the hard part of this encounter is learning this phase of the fight. We had many wipes when learning this fight only because everyone has to learn how kill their constructs. Because he randomly debuffs people, you can go weeks without having to do it, then the next week you'll have to do it twice in the same fight.